France Says NO To The Veil
A French Parliamentary report has released a potentially explosive report today recommending the banning of the veil, or the full Burqa. The report was written by 32 French lawmakers.
The 200 page report says the Burqa should not be worn in hospitals, schools or public transport. In its report, the committee said requiring women to cover their faces was against the French republican principles of secularism and equality.
“The wearing of the full veil is a challenge to our republic. This is unacceptable. We must condemn this excess,” the report said.
The commission called on parliament to adopt a formal resolution stating that the face veil was “contrary to the values of the republic” and proclaiming that “all of France is saying ‘no’ to the full veil.”
If the recommendation becomes law, France would be following a recent Swiss law banning Mosque Minarets, and is a sign of increasing European discomfort with their Muslim communities. About 5 million Muslims live in France, the largest community in western Europe.
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This issue was discussed at length on the BBC this morning with a couple of street interviews to enliven it. The likelihood of this issue arising in the United States was dismissed because in the USA (it was said) Muslims are integrated into American culture, as opposed to the French method of absorbing (accommodating) Islamic migration through multiculturism.
That said, I am in accord with the majority in this thread. (When in Rome, do as the Romans do.)
Halloween is bad enough with weirdos walking around in Sith suits (That’s for Beach) and what not. I don’t want to hassle burkas day in and day out. I’d be expecting more than half of them to be suiciders.
That’s how paranoid I’ve become, associating myself with the likes of Mad Mike….
VIGILANTE – The British and French Muslim communities are the result of Empires, The French in North Africa, the British In Asia, when they arrive in western Europe, they move into established communities, what used to be known as ghettos, American Muslims are more evenly sprinkled throughout high population centers and are not seen as taking over anything, whereas in London or Paris, Manchester or Birmingham they are clustered together in what was poor white suburbs. In Britain the Muslim population is about 3% of the population but they so bunched to closely, it could be viewed as a take over. Muslim fundamentalists take over weak cultures, the British and French have strong national identities, and both have a long history of absorbing, invaders and migrants into their national state of being. The big sticking point here, is religion.
Having followed the trajectory of Islam in Europe for some time, I can undertsand Mr. Dinners feeling rather “inflamed”.
These crackdowns in France, Switzerland, and hopefully soon Britain as well, are long-overdue reactions to years of severe provocation.
INFIDEL – Most of the provocation comes from the men in these societies, I say “most” because al Qaeda is recruiting female suicide bombers now, but freeing the women from this oppression must be a positive step in watering down the effect this male dominated sect has on us all.
Bee!
Amen.
SERIOUS penalties.
HILL – See my reply to Stimpson and Bee.
“That whole burka thing? It started with the men, y’know.”
Absolutely. It’s all about men regarding women as temptresses, as instigation to sin. The theory is, men’ll see a pretty face or naked ankle, and burn with lust. It’ll just be too much for them.
I want to see some serious penalties (and I mean SERIOUS) for males in the muslim communities in France when they decide that if THEIR women can’t go out without being totally covered, then the women either get the snot knocked out of them, or imprisoned in their homes. That whole burka thing? It started with the men, y’know.
What Stimpson said.
The simplest way to address this is to enact and enforce laws against masks in public.
I also find the burka offensive, but not because it’s non-conformist. I have no problem with the idea of non-conformism. I have a problem with taking away someone’s face, which is the root of personal identity. The burka amounts to saying women don’t count as individuals.
STIMPSON – HILL – BEE – I agree with what you say 100% Islamic women and girls who are FORCED the wear the veil, for the most part, are among the oppressed, downtrodden people on earth. They are nothing but property, bought and sold, baby making machines
4D my family and friends living in the UK agree completely!
I should fucking well think so as well.
Oh please do the same England!!!!
…even better…arrest any bitches who wear them…
Come on!!!…Make my fucking day!!!
MR. DINNERS – You seem pretty inflamed about the whole thing. What it’s all about is the way Islam treats it’s women and girls, I don’t think women who wear the veil are bitches, I don’t know any women from anywhere, who would voluntarily cover themselves up from head to foot. They are prisoners within their own families and their own repressive society.
Those ridiculous Burqas simply dehumanize women.
People who choose to live in a country other than the one of their birth, have a chance to add to the culture, and that is true of America in so many ways, but newcomers who take away from the culture, run the risk of being ostracized. Leave your religion at the house.
They don’t treat them as human beings but sexual property for their eyes only.
As I mentioned at MMA the Blog this is a damn good idea. Those who come to a country that is not theirs and take up residence need to conform with the culture.