Hi! Kick me in the crotch,please. I’m a Democrat!
I used to vote party-line Democrat. My parents were both union and Democrat and although they lacked education, like my good friend SJ pointed out in his recent post regarding poor people in the South Bronx – my parents knew enough to vote their interests. The CWA – officially Communications Workers of America, Company Wins Again to the rank and file – pushed the Democrat slate every election.
In 2004 I decided I could never vote for a war supporter and quit voting Democrat. Green, Peace and Freedom – Republican if it was for Ron Paul – I don’t support the war machine with my vote. Makes no difference in the scheme of things but makes me feel a little better.
Standing on principle is the right thing to do as far as I’m concerned. Voting against a toothless financial reform bill as Russ Feingold did was principled. Being the “1” in the 443-1 vote to attack Afghanistan as Barbara Lee did was principled. Not buying table grapes or looking for the union label is principled or being vegan cause you can’t stand the suffering of animals is principled. Favoring affordable health care over bailing out the health insurance industry is principled.
Ridiculing those of us who support job creation over propping up insolvent banks or who believe wars of aggression are wrong has become a habit among Democrats. Dismissing us as little better than teabaggers is regular fare at Kos and Huffington and in most of the liberal blogosphere.
All the attacks from those who join the Obama administration in favoring Wall St over the working class, who believe the war on Iraq was a noble gesture and the Iraqis need to take care of themselves as the POTUS has stated, who feel that poor legislation is the best we can hope for merely strengthen my resolve.
Q:” Do you want the Republicans to win?” Why the fuck would I want that?
Q: “Do you think McCain would have done better?” Why the fuck would I think that?
Q: “So you want Palin to be president?” Again, why the fuck would I want that?
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Please – stop acting like a bunch of damn teabaggers with the stupid comments.
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You can kid yourself that TODAY the 5.00 you give to the panhandling drunk will be spent on food, or the schoolyard bully will stop taking your milk money if you just give him one more quarter. But you know what? The bullying never stops. Never. Unless there’s an intervention the drunk ain’t gonna sober up and spend his money wisely. And the current triangulated Democratic Party will never again look out for the interests of their old base as long as the lobbyist money keeps coming in from the multinationals and the banks and the oil companies – and as long as that old base keeps voting for them.
Kick me in the crotch once, shame on you. Kick me in the crotch twice, shame on me.
Kick me in the crotch every day while I ridicule as spoiled and ungrateful the people who aren’t bowing and smiling and grimacing – I’m a Democrat.
Bookmarked dude.
Politicians aren’t in it for us Oso. Never have been, never will be.
Anyroad…I’m supposed to be over there sometime next year with my pal Barnsley Sime. You up for a beer or four once I confirm the dates?
that I am fourdinners!Beers are on me, and probably on the floor as well!
This was great! I, like Krell, was hopeful and excited that FINALLY I had voted for someone who won. This had never happened in my 20+ years of voting history.
Then I watched with horror and disgust as he tried all kinds of idealistic, doomed-to-fail things like “reach across the aisle”. It was like seeing a toddler walk into a den of hungry wolves holding up a box of rice cereal and hoping they would go for that.
Had he 10 more years of political experience and gamesmanship, he might have been able to put some of his intelligence to work for the country.
Politics has become so corrupt that to stand out the candidates have to compete with “crazy”. Choosing one over another is like choosing between a shit sandwich and a shit milkshake.
Obama is a classic “moderate”. Twenty years ago he would have been a left leaning Republican. (Anyone else remember when there used to be pro-choice Republicans?)
Thank you MH, and I remember those guys. Rockefeller comes to mind, and in many respects even Nixon’s domestic policy parallels current Democratic policy. An example would be Nixon’s health care plan.
Oso, I was thinking about a draft Bloomberg initiative for 2012. We’ll talk?
All I got to say is
DITTO DITTO DITTO.
Great post Oso. I’d pour out more, but early day today. Will slide back around after I leave the class.
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This is what I was saying the other day Oso. Liberals have had to cave, to get things that are so watered down, it’s pitiful. The pro choice group had to vote for a terrible thing with the whole Stupak thing, they voted because “it was the best we could do right now”. Well yeah because you would not even consider single payer.
Senate having Max Bacus, Ben Nelson, Evan(Wellpoint)Bayh heading up the HCR bill in the senate watered it down so very much. Instead of fighting for single payer, that might have been negotiated to a public option, we got a handout to the insurance companies. Same thing happened with CC reform. I don’t know if I mentioned it, but the credit card companies have already found their loophole to get around the whole raising of rates. They are sending out letters to tell you, hey we’ve put you on a business card, where guess what, the reforms ayup, not done with business accounts.
My biggest issues, maybe petty to most people but I don’t care. The whole DADT thing and DOMA, ENDA and card check. Supposedly the dems are for the little person, not looking like it now and it’s sad. I’ll still vote dem, donate and GOTV, but this year will be the first year I will actually wear the clothes pin on my nose, to the polling office while voting. I know there have been many things done and I know you can’t fix 30+ yrs of republican rule in 2 yrs, but damn you guys had a huge majority and you let the reps stick it to you dems, what’s up with that. In my world, ah let’s imagine my world for a minute. I would have given them a beatdown and told them, this is what we will be doing or you won’t get money for your districts. That would have hit the pubbies hard. To hell with bipartisanship, that isn’t working and oh by the way, that wasn’t how the public voted in 06 or 08. **rant ended**
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@Jess “damn you guys had a huge majority and you let the reps stick it to you dems what’s up with that”
Exactly, what the hell?
I asked my rep that at her last town hall meeting and I got a blank stare. Sad thing is she is a really good dem and she is sticking up for her blue dog co workers. Kind of like Rumsfeld and his whole you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want type deal. She pissed me off and I told her that but of course, she had to get to the next person and their question.
Jess I’m on board completely, you broke it down better than I did. Card check was big but effectively ignored. Public option could have been a negotiating tool and used to buy us more.
We got some good language in HCR but the loopholes negate most of the reform.
We think the same way, in my case the cynicism has likely been amplified by age.
Look at the bright side. We reelect Obama in 2012 we at least get four more years of entertaining speeches Oso.
And the reality of the situation is Washington is slow and corrupt. Jesus wouldn’t have gotten a good health care bill or us out of the eternal occupations either.
We got a party full of DINOs Oso. They think they have to act like republicans to get elected. I figure if the electorate wanted a republican they would have elected one.
Our leaders in the House and Senate help Obama and go on every media outlet through November and attack and beat hell out of republicans with the truth then we may even pick up a seat or two. Screw FOX News and the rest of the right wing cabal.
The struggle that I am having is strategic against principals.
If the people that went out and fought for Obama, a lot of them first time voters, don’t do the same thing this time, Obama is finished.
But if the guy isn’t coming up with the change that we voted for, still the renditions, still the Drone strikes in Pakistan, no financial reform, no trial for the war criminals, etc. Is he any different than what was in office before?
Obama was my guy. Not to be sappy, but I actually had tears in my eyes when he walked out on election night and gave the acceptance speech. You may say that 2 years is not enough time and I believe that to be true on some issues. But he also has made some executive decision and orders that I wouldn’t be able to distinguish between him and Bush.
One of my biggest disappointments was the Financial Reform. I lost a bunch of money over the Wall Street scandal. I don’t see anything that would prevent the same thing from happening all over again. Not one damn thing!
And I don’t see any change happening here. Yea Bama is better than Bush big deal. And for the reasons you point out it’s become the norm to have to accept less because that’s all the whored out dims will give us. I tired of this lame ass logic.
You were smarter than you look on this one that’s for damn sure. Thanks OSO.
Thanks One Fly. I try to look a little smarter sometimes man!
I look at those questions – Do you want the Repubs to win, etc. – as extensions of the sophist or con man’s tactic of starting off with a couple of statements on which everyone can agree. The strategy goes like this: Get someone agreeing to a couple of things to lull him into agreeing to something he would reject otherwise. And the person trying to do the persuading uses these tricks because he knows he’s trying to talk you into accepting something that’s bad for you.
What I’m saying is, the people who ask those ridiculous questions know in their hearts that they’re “selling” something that ain’t right.
Mike,
That’s an interesting observation about the sophist/con man’s tactic. I hadn’t thought of that but it makes sense.
Thanks man!