Millimeter Waves and Junk Pictures

Probably the one study that I would like to see more research into is this one…A possibility of Bubble effects in DNA Strands of Terahertz Rf Fields.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0910/0910.5294v1.pdf

But they conclude that

“Hence, the occurrence of a fluctuation with sufficiently large amplitude is very rare, and therefore extended exposure is required.”

They put forth the idea that DNA strands may be effected by a harmonic resonance of particular frequency and power. Almost like a certain frequency will cause a bell to start ringing from across the room.

“If any reader can point out a scientific peer reviewed study that does indicate genetic damage, please post a link to the study in comments and this post will be revised with that new information.”

This is exactly the INCORRECT way to handle risk to humans of new technology – especially forced technology incorporating things similar to things we know DO cause harm.

New technologies must be proven SAFE not the other way around.
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I agree with that statement to a point. The reality is that science applied to products is a continuing review process. You test to a reasonable safety level, get feedback, continue testing after product release. There have been some products that were thought to be safe but were later pulled by recall.
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For example there is no peer reviewed study that shows that exposing yourself quickly and repeatedly to ultra short bursts of heat at 4000 degrees will cook you. There are plenty though that show longer bursts will cook you as does common sense. Should you be forced to stand in a short burst cooker just to fly a plane just because no studies have shown short burst exposure to the same energy cooks you?
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I don’t even understand this argument
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The same is true with any radiaton and so is the common sense.

Peered review studies take YEARS – first to get funding and approval for the study, then for the study, then the peer review process then the publication. Should everyone be exposed until those are completed?
Further recent review f “peered reviewed” medical journal have found so much influence of medical pharmaceutical money that “up to

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I do not argue that there is considerable “influence” in the
drug development and approval process.
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Based on recent studies peer reviewed journals are on average by any empirical measurement MORE corrupted from fact and influence BECAUSE of its high regard in society. Organizations corrupt the article precisely because people like you believe “peer review ” to be above influence.

Look it up yourself let me google that for you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=793&&sa=X&ei=FP33TN2YIpDSsAOKwf2iAg&ved=0CBIQBSgA&q=corporate+influence+on+peered+reviewed+medical+articles&spell=1

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.1000335
or in laymans terms
http://www.naturalnews.com/012119.html

But even in “peered reviewed journals”

There are loads of studies that have shown higher frequency radio wave energy causes genetic damage. Many have come out of Europe regarding cell phone frequencies. Should we require that every single frequency be individually proven harmful?
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Again, I stand by my statement that it is power density that causes damage. Cell phones produce a larger concentration of RF power on a smaller surface than the MMW scanner. Note that I am talking only the MMW scanner. Read later post on X-Ray scanner.
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Isn’t it enough to know that frequencies cause harm and therefore it is reasonable to assume UNLESS PROVEN SAFE that other frequencies at high intensities like occur in the skin level with TSA scanners cause harm?

Use common sense and logical scientific reasoning. If high frequency skin penetrating radio waves like cell phone radiation cause harm then varying the frequency will likely also cause some harm in unknown ways.

And furthermore limiting it to “genetic damage” is a false exclusion. We have no idea the effect of these higher frequencies on the atomic level and we have little understanding of the effect of atomic level changes in the body. what if these frequencies altered the isotope ratios of hydrogen in the body? What if they caused sideband frequencies which interfered with intercelluar communication in the brain of other matrices in the body.
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Again, this post was about the MMW scanners. Ionizing radiation energy such as that used by the X-Ray scanner is discussed in a later post
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We simply have NO IDEA what KIND of harm penetrating frequencies do but we KNOW that energy is going somewhere and is thus changing SOMETHING in the substrate of the skin down to half a millimeter.

What is scientifically logical and usually pans out is if you expose a human body to any environment,energy or substance which it did not evolve in and thus adapt to then that environment,energy or substance is likely to cause changes in the body and the high probability is those changes will NOT be positive since the whole body is balance base don it’s previously evolved condition.

Thus it is scientifically valid to EXCLUDE human exposure to non evolved energies and higher concentrations of those energies unless they are PROVEN SAFE.

but you wanted some research and let me google that for you.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=cell+phone+radiation+genetic+damage+&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

Choose from the hundreds of articles or read some of the choice other quotes I found and noted below my signature including how little radiation the Russian bombarded the American embassy with by comparison which caused numerous health problems in Embassy employees.

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The reason that the Russians bombarded the embassy was due to passive resonant cavity listening devices embedded in the building for spying purposes. Not to cause some secret DNA mutation war.
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This un proofed article took me an hour to write just to do the work and exercise the scientific common sense you didn’t do. Unfortunately I can’t spend more time on it but then again unlike you I am not being paid to do it.
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My posts take longer than a hour to write, I have over 25 years of engineering experience designing embedded measurement equipment that uses rf energy,ultrasound in the Mhz range,etc.

I don’t get paid for writing these posts. Just do it for the pleasure of writing and getting read.
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Next time do the damn research before writing unless of course you too are influenced by the manufacturers money and advertising which is highly likely.
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I am not going to respond to that first sentence. As for influenced by manufacturers money or advertising, I have to say that there is almost no advertising on this site and the audience that the Scanner Manufacturers would pay money to influence would be a lot larger than this audience. Think articles and opinions in major mags and newspapers. Much larger market base.
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In that case please keep posting their apologetic “no proof” common sense denying, tripe arguments as you are being paid to do.
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Are you trying to say “common sense denying,no proof tripe arguments? Sounds better that way don’t you think?

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vivzizi

http://books.google.com/books?id=2azJ1LSncfAC&pg=PA150&lpg=PA150&dq=cellphine+radiation+causies+genetic+damage&source=bl&ots=HZHLMzy3jy&sig=rriq9QrqgXdINBz5TTMD0ziEaVs&hl=en&ei=rfr3TO3aK4a0sAOn-uXDAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q&f=false

or
http://genetichemistry.com/genetic-memory/do-cell-phones-really-cause-cancer/

“During the Cold War, the Soviets bombarded U.S. embassy workers with an average exposure of only .01 microwatt per square centimeter.

The illnesses at the embassy made international news. There has been no funding to look at the cumulative effects of the myriad of EMF types of exposure. But there are reports of an instantaneous spike in mortality after cell phone service began in the 1990s.

In some cities, the rate of mortality went up by 10-25% compared to the typical death rate. Let’s look at studies abroad: A French 2002 study found living close to a cell phone tower can cause extreme sleep disturbance, chronic fatigue, skin problems, brain disturbances, and cardiovascular problems.

A German study found a high rate of cancer developing on average eight years earlier than national averages if you live within 1,200 feet of a cell tower. Spanish researchers found significant illness increases at a radiation exposure of only 0.11 to 0.19 microwatts.”