Our Side Does Not Kill
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First condolences to every person affected by the slaughter yesterday.
People on the right have said the same but I do not believe many of them. It was not Republicans nor Tea Baggers who were gunned down but people like you and me who think like and have values similar to those who were shot. Big Whore Media will explain this in terms that will continue to fit their agenda.
Having seen baggers and repugs in action in Grand Junction a little over a year ago when bama came to town I was taken back at the level and intensity of hate and anger that permeated from the crowd of flag wearing/waving people screaming their love for my country but not for us on the other side of the street.
There is one major point out of so many that I will use for this tragedy to explain the depths of where these people are at using this assassination as an example. If the accused had similar ideas/values as you and I this would not have happened and that is fair to say as the facts are not in on the rest of his history. I’m sure it will be interesting.
My point is this – the people on hate radio and TV for a long time have branded liberals/liberalism as the greatest threat our country has ever faced. That we are the one thing that threatens all that those on the other side think is good about their country and they are incited in various devious ways and rhetoric to do something about that and they have just like now.
Don’t anybody shit yourselves as there are many on the other side of the street that are pleased that this happened and want to see more of the same as it a battle for their FREEDOM you see.
The right cannot win on policy stances alone as they have been proven not to work. To win this ideology has to lie,cheat and steal. If that doesn’t work they’ll fucking kill you and that’s a fact.
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Look, there may be too much “us versus them” but, let’s face it, the two sides aren’t equally guilty. The Right is far more guilty of violent rhetoric, bringing guns to rallies, touting “Second Amendment remedies” etc. Let’s not make false equivalencies here.
This evenhandedness reminds me of how some educators and school administrators and counselors try to get the schoolyard bully and his victim to both admit to wrongdoing, as if the victim was in some way asking to be beat up for his lunch money. Let’s not make that mistake in the name of “civility” or whatever mushy-minded ideal one cares to espouses as if it were a doctrine of faith.
Yes, there is way too much of the “us versus them”…..
Most of the media types and their political employees who are expressing regret over the slaughter are the main inciters. As much regret that is felt by democrats over this, there will be much smugness on the right, and they WILL look to paint the perp as a left wing loony.
I don’t believe for a second that all right-wingers are homicidal nut-jobs, and fear the implications of any response to this incident that feeds an “us-versus-them” mentality. Surely there are Republicans–probably the vast majority–who feel genuine sorrow for those affected by the shooting. Others may be *ssholes who will celebrate the work of this lunatic, but then again, the left has its *ssholes too.
No matter how much security we have in this society, there are plenty of opportunities for random violence, and, unfortunately, there will likely always be a select few individuals so demented as to believe that they are somehow exceptionally clever for being able to exploit those opportunities. They’re not. They’re crazy, unstable, and mental illness isn’t a partisan issue. Most extremists make a lifestyle out of blowing smoke about plots that will never come to fruition, but it’s the mentally unstable who will seek out extremist rhetoric to feed their delusions.
I don’t think for a second that the heated, emotional and hate-filled rhetoric of Palin and others is inconsequential, but the greatest danger is in allowing that rhetoric to drive a wedge between parties who should be working together for the good of the nation (both in government and among the citizenry). John Hinckley, Ted Kaczynski, and Sirhan Sirhan didn’t wait around for Palin to indulge in their delusions. There were nut-jobs before the teabagger movement, and there will be nut-jobs long after. We can’t give in to the temptation to start pointing fingers along party lines for crimes like this…
GL, You are a voice of sanity in an insane world. But it does seem like the far right has more of those “instinctual” drives I have theorized plus and extra does of the MOAM malformed gene. Are all of the bad, no. Do they try to genuinely try lower the rhetoric to a reasonable discussion level, no.
I was getting ready to say what you said, Greenlight, only with far less eloquence.
Conservative websites put up tons of anecdotal evidence “proving” how insane the left is, and liberal websites do the same to “prove” the insanity of the conservatives.
People can have completely different ideas about things and yet, both people can be very intelligent.
Core opinions come from axioms we settled in our minds long ago. I think without the use of the conservative’s axioms and I seem like a nut to him. Of course I do. He is a nut.
Agreed One Fly,there is definitely a stream of hate from the right. Most are unwilling to admit it,however they’re well-versed in the big lie technique.
They speak of union thugs (as if they even exist anymore) or the New Black Panther Party or other made up boogey men in rebuttal to actual claims of violence and threats of violence.
The MF’s don’t even lie credibly.They don’t even bother with a concocted story, they just parrot stupid crap and their wingnut followers (some of whom are not stupid, like Rusty when he drops by to drop off bits of mindless condescension) echo it.
Our side does kill, it gets killed, over the years two Kennedys and MLK were cut down and Obama has more security than any other president which I imagine has been ramped up considerably after the mayhem in Arizona yesterday.