Bill O’Reilly: Liberal media call Norwegian killer Christian because “They don’t like Christians”
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Bill O’Reilly says nobody who believes in Jesus could commit mass murder
Bill O’Reilly criticized the media for describing Anders Behring-Breivik, the man who has admitted to committing the mass killings in Norway, as a Christian, saying that such a thing was “impossible.”
O’Reilly singled out the New York Times, which called Breivik a “Christian extremist” in an article. Breivik also referred to himself as a Christian, as did the Norwegian police, and his 1,500 page manifesto has been described as coming from a Christian perspective. In the manifesto, he writes that he does not have a “personal,” religious relationship with Christ, believes in Christianity “as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform,” which he says “makes [me] Christian.”
To O’Reilly, though, it was “impossible” that Breivik is a Christian.
“No one believing in Jesus commits mass murder,” he said. “The man might have called himself a Christian on the net, but he is certainly not of that faith…we can find no evidence, none, that this killer practiced Christianity in any way.”
He said that the reason the media was calling Breivik a Christian was because “the left wants you to believe that fundamentalists Christians are a threat just like crazy jihadists are.” O’Reilly called this notion “dishonest and insane,” saying that no government was backing Breivik’s ideology.
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Um no idiot, we are calling him that because that is how he presented himself.
If he said he was a car, would that make him a him a Volvo? You’re saying he presented himself as a Christian? A ‘Christ-one’, literally, ‘one who is like Christ?’ Wow, which chapter of the gospels had Jesus wading into the crowd with an automatic weapon? I guess if he’d said he was a transmogrified sea-serpent, changed into human form by the Alpha-Centuarians, you’d take his word for that, too. Who are you calling an idiot? Here, let me Reverend Forrest Gump it for you, “Christian e-is as Christian does.”
The guy referred to himself or presented himself as a Christian, so that is why he is being called a Christian what is so very difficult to understand about that? I don’t care that Christians want to separate themselves from this via the true Scotsman rule. No deal, he is what he is and there is no getting around that. As far as who am I calling the idiot, I thought that was clear since Bill O is the one we are discussing here is he not?
One can make any claim one wishes, but if their actions do not bear out the claim, the claim is false. I could claim to be an Eagle, but my plummet and splatter from a tall building would prove my claim as false as Anders Brevik’s claim to be a Christian.
I’m sorry I got snippy, I thought you were calling me an idiot. Being a Christian, I get that a lot on this particular site. And yes, Bill ‘Oh Really!?’ is an idiot. But in this case, he’s an idiot for not making the point clear that religious extremists of any stripe ARE dangerous, but should not be seen as representative of Christ, Budha, Mohamed, the faiths ascribed to them, or those who truly follow a faith, rather that use it to justify actions completely contrary to it. There is nothing more dangerous than an extremist, religious believer in a faith of their own making.
See the thing is, Orally is trying to say no he isn’t Christian, because no Christian would do something like this. Well this one, brevik according to himself anyway, Christian did do this and trotting out the true Scotsman theory, will not change the fact the guy identified as Christian no matter how Bill or others try to change that fact. When I say I don’t care about Christians trying to distance themselves via the one true Scotsman rule I mean that, that is entirely up to them I don’t care one way or the other because I don’t believe in any gods. I’m more pissed Bill is trotting out the tried and true method of liberals hate(insert whatever here) because we don’t like whatever it is he is talking about. No deal, he said he was Christian and no amount of spin from Orally or others will change that. These acts were most definetly against anything I have read in the teachings of the Christ, but the guy still did them while saying he was Christian, so Bill has no out on this one.
Bradley, it isn’t so much that anyone is stereotyping Christians with the actions of the fine fellow who committed the acts in Norway. However, it is just as ridiculous to say he is not a Christian simply because Christians do not do those things. People who are Christians do all sort of things that are not Christian like but they still claim the be Christians and the Christians are not denouncing them. Ted Haggart, Jimmy Swaggart are a couple but they are just a couple. The Knights Templar launched many a crusade mission to slaughter of the Muslims in the Holy land. Rick Warren who went to Uganda and preached death for homosexuals and urged the government to passed a death penalty law against homosexuals. All of these people and many more who claim to follow (almost all) of the teachings of Christ but then do not. I am sure there are people who try to be “good Christians,” but they get lumped in with the rest because they never step up and criticize the false cristians.
I criticize them all the time, but you are right lazer; I don’t think I am in the majority. I concider myself Christian left, and we are not many. The special brand of contempt the religious right (or Religious Reich) bear us is more akin to ‘traitors in our midst.’
Since most of what ‘good’ Christians might be doing doesn’t grab a lot of headlines, as indeed, scripturally, it should not, their actions will likely never recieve the type of media coverage that this Brevik, or David Koresh, or Jim Jones have. If you really want to see a religious person go all unchristian, you should see the reaction I get when I tell one of them I am not on board with pro-lifers, or homophobes, I am anti-war and George Bush should be prosecuted as an international terrorist. I am for the separation of Church and hate, therefore I have rejected religion and accepted Jesus Christ.
Also, being Christian, I’ve been…assessed unflatteringly a time or two by the other side. It’s taxing at times drawing fire from both directions, but I’m not complaining. In the wise words of Super Chicken, ‘You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.’ In fact ‘I’m fine in the fire; I feed on the friction. I’m right where I should be; don’t try and fix me.’ Love that song.
Jess, I’m sorry, I’m not familiar with the ‘one true Scotsman rule,’ so I can’t comment on it.
When you are catching hell from both sides Bradley then probably are in the right place. From what I know about Jesus, which is actually quite a bit, that was where he could always be found.
Grafitti stenciled all over downtown St. Louis for years has proclaimed, ‘Bill O’Reilly is full of shit!’ Still true. I didn’t paint them, but my friend has the t-shirt.
While I agree no true follower of Christ’s would do what this sick individual has done, no true follower of Mohamed’s would be a suicide bomber, either.
Yeah, and I guess he would say that the Knights Templar were a bunch of Boy Scouts who lost their way on a trip to the holy land.
Right Mr. Lazer and those boy scouts have been lost ever since.
Once again Bill, Fox and others on the right find a way to blame liberals. Wait long enough and they will find a way to blame Obama or Clinton. These people have no sense or shame. I am sick to death of all of them.
You and me both DP, it’s a tactic they always use because it never fails to register with their supporters.