Judge reluctantly denies challenge to Obama’s wolf killing decree

President Obama and the Congress made a deal with the Republicans to allow hunters to kill wolves in the Rockies in exchange for budget considerations

gray wolves killings, obama decrees wolves can be killed

The magnificent Gray Wolf with cub

For those Hard Lefties who accuse me of being an apologist for the president they couldn’t be more wrong.  I am vehemently opposed to much of what Obama has done since he took office.  As a matter of fact I hated his appointment of Ken Salazar as Interior Secretary, and quite frankly, with a few exceptions, I doubt Obama’s record on the environment is much better than his predecessors.  That does not mean I will call him names, or make idle threats or try to organize silly protests as do some.

The main issue here, however, is not the positions of the Haters but the tragedy that is politics without courage, and that is what has happened to our wolves.  Pawns in a game played with man’s arrogance, they will now be shot down without regard to their legacy or their beauty, all because a bunch of politicians decided to trade them for compromise.  The parties involved, including Barack Obama, should be ashamed.  Even Adolf Hitler thought it important to protect the wolves.

Here is the sad story:

While condemning Congress’s budget-bill rider stripping protections from northern Rockies gray wolves, a federal judge on Wednesday nonetheless reluctantly denied a challenge to the rider by the Center for Biological Diversity and allies. Declaring the rider “a tearing away, an undermining, and a disrespect for the fundamental idea of the rule of law,” the judge effectively agreed with the Center that it violated the separation-of-powers clause of the U.S. Constitution. However, he wrote, he was constrained to uphold it by binding appellate court precedents.

The Center and other conservation groups had challenged the rider, approved in April, which removed Endangered Species Act protection for wolves in Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Washington and Utah. The decision marked the first time that Congress, rather than scientists, took a plant or animal off the endangered species list. “Today’s decision means that hundreds of wolves that need protection won’t get it,” said Kierán Suckling, executive director of the Center. “Although wolf numbers have risen, the job of wolf recovery in the northern Rocky Mountains is far from complete.”

Tell us what you think of this government exercise in wolf killing, and the president’s role in it.

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64 Responses to Judge reluctantly denies challenge to Obama’s wolf killing decree

  1. Sagacious Hillbilly

    August 7, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Gets me sick when people hunt wolves and coyotes.

    • Michael John Scott

      August 7, 2011 at 2:17 pm

      Ditto!!

      • Bradley scott

        August 7, 2011 at 9:16 pm

        No one should hunt anything they’re not going to eat. ‘Trophy’ hunting is stupid and cruel. If you have to have a trophy, learn to fuckin’ bowl!

    • Norma Scott

      March 10, 2013 at 3:57 pm

      This massive killing must stop, and should not be allowed,slaughtering our animals for a deal… Good God wot will they do next, and wot an example for our younger generation…then they wonder why guns are going to school, Killing must be the in thing here…..

  2. Anonymous

    December 23, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    Let’s see…place a non-native predator such as the CANADIAN wolf in our ecosystem that states have spent tens-of-millions of dollars on trying to build viable game populations and you can see the results…decimation of the game animals. I hope you like going out and seeing nothing but wolves in the woods…oh that’s right you are a bunch of arm-chair biologists who think they know something about game management. Clearly you don’t live in these areas…so until you see the effects of wolf predation first-hand…keep your mouth shut or bring your pets out here for a walk in the woods…that might be better…

    • Michael John Scott

      December 24, 2011 at 12:37 pm

      The so called effects of predation have been way overblown by the locals and the special interests who want nothing more than to kill wolves so they can have a trophy on their wall and bragging rights at work. I have lived in those areas and have followed this issue closely for several decades. This is about MONEY, not about the environment. Anyone who knows anything about wolves knows they can’t and don’t take out healthy game, only the sick, young and injured, and only the young if the mother can’t fight them off. The number of wolves versus the number or ruminants is like 1-10K. Elk, moose, and deer need culling because of overpopulation and the continuing encroachment of human development. The wolves are the ones to do this.

      • Bill kelly

        March 10, 2013 at 6:15 pm

        Please tell me where in oregon, our ungulates are overpopulated? Its quite funny I only get 7 days a year to hunt this massive overpopulation instead of 2 months and help bring that population down. fact is there was no overpopuklation anywhere outside a national park. As for wolves only culling the sick weak and old. lets see I could have the flue or chicken pox and your mom could be 6 months pregnant and healthy. who could run faster from wolves????

        • Dr Monika Fisher

          March 16, 2013 at 9:36 pm

          Poor Bill!! I suspect that,like many US kids, you were fed shite from the bible instead of learning something relevant to life on Earth, such as EVOLUTION or ECOLOGY!! Point is, Predator numbers are controlled by prey numbers – I shouldn’t have to tell a grown man this – if it were not so, then when whiteyman came uninvited and unwelcome to the N Amerikan continent, he’d have found virtually nothing alive, except maybe the Indians (Earth’s ONLY true Human Beings!!)who, by necessity, would have had to be vegetarians. We all know this wasn’t so – the reason being that Nature keeps things in balance, without any assistance from either hominids OR Human Beings. Prey numbers go up, predators raise more young. More predator mouths to feed, herbivores become fewer, so predators have fewer young, giving herbivores chance to recover – and so it goes on, like a seesaw going slightly THIS way, then slightly THAT, in a wonderful equilibrium. Beautiful !!

    • Sarah C.

      February 16, 2013 at 6:18 am

      Anonymous, this wolf is not non-native. There is so much supporting this that I find it overwhelming to mention it all but I will try. There is old evidence from the 1800’s which documented the subspecies of occidentalis as being here, as well as nubulis, no irremotus which I’m sure is what you believe to be the native wolf of the U.S. During this time everyone was scrambling to make their own subspecies and discoveries, to be remembered in our textbooks, but there was little real science going on, and this is where irremotus came from. Nubulis and occidentalis have and always will be one of the three/four concrete subspecies which exist in the USA, they are not a guess or fabrication of some fantastical story, they are cold hard science which was studied and well known for years. There is also a theory that our native wolves, in an effort to survive, moved up into Canada, like our plains bison did, and I do not doubt this either. Wolves have also moved back into the USA (like Washington) from Canada, even if they were an entirely different animal, if we humans did not exist this would happen because nature is restoring the balance and damage we have done on its own.

      The game animals are not being decimated, compared to when wolves were first reintroduced they have blown out of proportion to amazing levels that I’m sure no one would ever imagine seeing.

      I live in Idaho and have never seen a wolf in my life. I have seen mule deer, hawks, ducks, I even recently saw a coyote stalking cattle, looking for calves to steal, but never a wolf. I would love to see one if ever given the chance though. I have plenty of dogs, cats, rabbits, a horse, and critters for them though, if they ever want to pay a visit. Until then I’m afraid I’ll have to say I have seen no wolves or this so called “predation” that you speak of.

    • Craig

      February 16, 2013 at 1:51 pm

      Anonymous, you say “decimation of wild game animals”, yet it’s alright to kill
      an animal that’s species is still on the edge of disappearing forever.
      I have lived in this part of Minnesota all my life. I camp, fish, snowshoe and hike the woods. I see much more human-made decimation then anything else.

    • IreneWolfay

      February 16, 2013 at 1:55 pm

      Anonymous, It is sad to see that you have made an uninformed…and completely bogus…statement as to the origination of wolves, and their predation on the prey animals. It has been scientifically documented that wolves only prey on weak, sick, old, young animals, therefore making the rest of the herd stronger and more resilient to disease and starvation. It has also been documented by wildlife researchers that predators are necessary to a vital and healthy eco-system. Also, consider the fact that, no matter the “origin” of the species, grey wolves were at one time found from Alaska to Oregon and lower, and across the continent from the west to east coast. The reintroduction of these animals into their “normal” habitat is vital to the continuing health and vitality of not only the herd animals, but the flora as well! My advice…before you go off “half cocked”, inform yourself!

    • Kim Norman

      February 17, 2013 at 2:18 pm

      Your a complete moron….you are the one that knows nothing about how the wolf and its prey work….There is no science that says that the wolf or any other predator has been responsible for the decline of deer,elk, moose or others…Hunting,over grazing by deer/elk etc. and loss of habitat and disease are responsible for the decline, all man made reasons..if you leave nature alone, nature will balance its self out, it does not need mans help….unfortunately, people who think like you have destroyed nature and its balance…You cannot have more animals feeding/grazing on land that it can’t support just so you can have more to shooot. Thats why the delcine in deer/elk etc…Ranchers cattle destroying feeding grounds with their cattle/sheep/horses are probably the main reason, But instead of facing the truth you blame it on the Wolf and coyote….Who are you going to blame when the wolf and coyote are no longer here….better start by looking at yourself in the mirror, ……

    • Dorot39

      February 17, 2013 at 2:24 pm

      Anonymous, you need to get your facts straight. Wolves have killed .003% of the livestock roaming on public land. They also make deer populations stronger. By taking out the weak and sick. They don’t take out the strong ones. Oh yes, by the way, your family dogs kill 13% of livestock.

    • Yaocihuatl

      February 18, 2013 at 10:14 am

      Non Native? Canada is the same continent and wolves as well as other animals should not ever have to abide by the imaginary lines that people draw on continents. You have no idea what you’re talking about, I want to thank you for showing us all that about yourself. Game animals are not breed and made for hunters. They are made and bred by God to feed other animals such as wolves and coyotes. Again, you have no idea what you’ve talking about. What you are doing however, is showing everyone who reads your posts (unless they’re just like you and feel that they too should be able to walk and live wherever they want to and not have to survive in a way that requires any kind of intellect or survival skills.) is that you do not understand what “Native” means in any way shape or form. All that people like you do on a daily basis is use your ignorance as a stance by acting like an angry child. Name calling and racism etc. Truly. You look very “bad”. It’s a shame. No contest. You have nothing to offer people except your defensive attitude, name calling and angry privilege. I would bet money that you are not an ethnic person just by the way that you write.

    • Mareli

      March 10, 2013 at 4:57 pm

      Another ignoramus who is trotting out that “foreign Canadian wolf” BS. The grey wolf is a species native to North America, which includes both Canada and and the continental U.S. Delisting the wolf was a big mistake because wolves are subject to paranoid hatred by a large enough minority of people that they are in danger of being killed off.

      • Michael John Scott

        March 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm

        Well said and right on the money. I agree with every word.

    • Donna griffen

      March 11, 2013 at 9:09 am

      How can anyone think that using wolves as bargaining chips is a great use of resources. This is not acceptable. The next thing the government will use is our children against us. Re: do this or your children will be microchipped an shipped all over the place. This govt. has no right to bargain with others lives, do this or you wont get this. Bull….! Who does this govt. think it is? This is our country, you work for us, or get out now!

    • Joe Ogrodnik

      March 11, 2013 at 10:44 am

      If ranchers and hunters were great game management the U.S. wolves would not be extinct… ain’t that right Bubba?

      • Michael John Scott

        March 11, 2013 at 4:07 pm

        Bubba never listens. He’s too busy listening to Fox News.

    • Kristine Blanco-Hallman

      March 17, 2013 at 3:11 pm

      Poor poor anonymous. You really don’t get it. Mostly I don’t get you. Nothing you said made the slightest sense.

    • Rocketman

      March 25, 2013 at 9:58 pm

      And clearly you are one of those arrogant hunters who thinks ruminants are only for your gut alone. You have no clue about biodiversity. It works. But since things seem to be done your way, you apparently will never have the opportunity to find out.

  3. Sarah C.

    February 16, 2013 at 6:35 am

    I personally would like to see wolves managed and seen as valuable animals with amazing pelts instead of worthless blood thirsty vermin, but we have hated them for so many years, even since before colonizing this continent, that I fear such a thing is impossible. Because of this I do not believe wolves should be managed because I do not trust that the government is using sound science to manage them. Here in Idaho we had approximately 700 wolves in 2011 and hunted around 350 in 2011-2012 and around 200 in 2013, 700-550 you do the math. I would say that the ranchers are ecstatic about this but I think the ecosystem is balancing itself out, much to the dismay of the welfare ranchers, as Owyhee county recently lost 35-37% of it’s range land because the land was not meeting expectations and needed to recover. http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/01/28/2430177/owyhee-county-braces-for-grazing.html Sounds like all ungulates, domestic and wild, are eating more now that they don’t have big bad woofs to worry about.

  4. Judy Jarret

    February 16, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    The politicians need to leave wildlife descions in the hand of WILDLIFE EXPERTS. I am reading research papers and everything I can and find most reasons for killing wolves have no basis in fact!!!!!
    Our politicians and the public are, sadly not educating themselves on this issue and wolves are dying for no good reason because they don’t.

  5. Catriona Devine

    February 16, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    As human beings are seen as one of the most intelligent speicies on our planet, we are responsible to use that intelligence in ways that make our planet better. I do not understand how intelligent, seemingly well educated individuals could approve the destruction of ANY species.
    Time and time again science and common sense has come up against the wall of government and hypocrisy. Science has proven that the common sense of just leaving the wild ares alone, things will balance themselves. Yet time and time again, the government has turned the blind eye of hypocrisy on the situation, and allowed the wontan distruction of entire species of plant and animal.
    And we elect these people to make these decisions, and they then refuse to listen to us. Maybe we should change the government to people who will listen. Listen not only to the people, but also to our land. Not with skeptism, or with a decision already in mind, but with an open ear and open heart. These things will not change until WE MAKE THEM change. Our Constitution does say “WE THE PEOPLE”. Maybe the people should make more changes in who we place our trust.

  6. Thomas Murphy

    February 17, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    politicians have been corrupt for decades now, and we the people stand by and do nothing, why—- because the process is so out of control and the public is so divided and non-caring because of the process it takes to get anything these a$$holes do reversed. this political circus is just that a three ring farce full of clowns. what is it going to take – a revolution?

  7. Julia R Vincent

    February 17, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Don’t just blame Republicans. Democrats are ranchers, too. Montana’s Democrat legislators, both at the state and federal levels, and governors have been waging war against indigenous wildlife as long as Montana has been in existence.

    • Michael John Scott

      February 17, 2013 at 12:57 pm

      I’m a democrat and supported Obama. When he did this, and threatened, early in his administration to legalize whaling once again, I was shocked. The latest news: he’s going to OK the Keystone Pipeline next month. This president has a lot of good qualities, but protecting our environment and our beautiful creatures isn’t one of them. His environmental record is worse than George Bush, and who would have thought that possible.

      • Kate VrMeer

        March 10, 2013 at 9:54 pm

        That is exactly how I feel! Obama is extremely disappointing! Hopefully the new Interior Secretary will be an improvement.

  8. Shelley

    February 17, 2013 at 9:48 pm

    Dirty and disgusting, another rape of the innocent. Obama just “looks” like his hands are tied to do anything. He’s in again because it’s easier for the Dems and Republicans to point fingers at each other. They are all in on big corporate business together and could give a rip about wildlife or the environment.

    • Michael John Scott

      February 18, 2013 at 10:33 am

      Agreed Shelley.

    • Crystal Lorensen

      March 10, 2013 at 6:19 pm

      so true and very sad

  9. patrice darden

    February 18, 2013 at 8:50 am

    we will not stop fightting for the wolf ,the gov, should be ashamed its not them to say what lives and what dies over 1000. have been killed this year alone

  10. Wolfer

    February 19, 2013 at 2:02 am

    It’s heartening to read the comments of knowledgeable people who do understand the importance of one of our keystone predators, the noble Northern Gray Wolf.

    I’ve worked in coalition with about a dozen other conservationists in WA State to get a pretty good “Gray Wolf Recovery and Management Plan” created and finally adopted by our Dept. of Fish & Wildlife. Now the wolf-haters want to undermine it by amending it in several ways.

    The lack of support for sound science by our current president is extremely upsetting. It is true that he simply does not “get it” when it comes to the natural world — our precious wild places and wildlife. Instead of joining the Climate Rally this weekend he is golfing with infamous Tiger Woods. If he allows the XL Pipeline to go through, he will lose the support of the environmental community. The Department of Interior now has Sally Jewell as Head. Perhaps she can do a better job than Ken Salazar has done for wildlife. Cattle ranchers simply cannot appreciate the harm that livestock do and the good that wolves do.

    I wish many more people would express concern about the diminution of our wild lands and animals.

    • Michael John Scott

      February 19, 2013 at 3:42 pm

      He’s going to approve the XL Pipeline, which is why his EPA chief resigned. Watch it happen, and I agree this president is clueless when it comes to protecting the natural world.

  11. sandy

    February 19, 2013 at 8:25 am

    I’m saddened & angry that most of our politicians are money greedy & can be bought @ the sacrifice of nature & our animals. Shame on them. One of God’s laws is for us to protect & care for his creatures. These people who harm them will certainly pay for their actions to a higher power.

  12. me

    February 22, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    i think this is pretty pathetic… no the animal’s aren’t ‘Trespassing’ on our land’s we are ‘Trespassing’ on thier’s… cut down another 500 yr old oak tree.. for ur ‘Success’ and ‘Progress’ ur concrete grow’s well.. ur modernized culture as u know it coming to an end.. enjoy ur world you created… as u watch everything die around u..

  13. Kelly Schueman

    March 10, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    I hate this president because of this . He has destroyed the love and respect I had for states so many states . I will never again vacation in places I used to love . I look for their products and leave anything that could possibly be from these states on the shelf , including beef.

    • Kate VrMeer

      March 10, 2013 at 9:50 pm

      I’m with you!

    • Michael John Scott

      March 11, 2013 at 4:13 pm

      It changed my view of him as well.

  14. Ziggy

    March 10, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    Montana Farm Bureau pleased with wolf management laws

    The Montana Farm Bureau applauded the state legislature for passing a wolf management bill, which has since been signed into law by Montana Gov. Steve Bullock. The legislation allows for the
    purchase of more than one hunting license for wolves, prohibits the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks from drawing buffer zones, allows the use of mechanical calls and lowers the cost of a license. “This is simply another management tool the state has for controlling the growing wolf population,” noted John Youngberg, MFBF vice president of governmental relations. “We’re pleased that this consensus bill brought together agricultural groups, landowners, sportsmen and the Montana Wildlife Federation to support it. We want to thank those groups and the legislators for working together.” Youngberg points out there are currently an estimated 650 wolves in Montana, and keeping their population in check is critical for
    the health of other animals, such as elk and moose, in the ecosystem.

  15. Darlene Abbott

    March 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    This is wrong to use a animal for the budget

  16. Kate VrMeer

    March 10, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    When what we know to be true about wolves is in conflict with the injustice of lies, fairy tales and political agendas that are all getting him killed, it is like a stab in the tapestry of the universe, like a slap in the face of decency and truth. The Obama administration and the Republicans in Congress should hang their heads in shame.

  17. Jenna McIntire

    March 10, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    What a sad day for our beautiful wildlife. We are the ones who have taken over their environment and now people see them as a nuisance, when it is actually US who are the nuisance 🙁

  18. WiZaRd Of The Wolf Nation

    March 11, 2013 at 12:11 am

    What’s it gonna take for ya’
    to stop killing our wolves???
    An extraterrestrial invasion of the planet Earth???
    Witchcraft???
    A revolution???

    CURSES ON THE FARM BUREAU!!!
    CURSES ON THE RUTHLESS BEEF INDUSTRY!!!
    CURSES ON THE SADISTIC REDNECK TROPHY HUNTERS/TRAPPERS!!!
    CURSES ON THE USFWS!!!
    A THOUSAND CURSES ON THE BLOODY ANTI-WOLF MINORITY!!!

    MAY THEY ALL BE HAUNTED BY ANGRY SPIRITS!!!

  19. Rik Bakker

    March 11, 2013 at 5:35 am

    I told you before by my FluteSong “BEWARE”, (outbound link removed per comment policy) ,,Dont Trust Governments and Hunters,,first there is The Swedish Government/Lena Ek ,,who are killing Wolves against the treaty of Brussel,,now there is Barack Obama who is a Coward Too,,only Killing for the money..

    Keep Up the Good Fight,,Save the Wolves.Rik the DutchFluteplayer/WolfActivist.
    for more Wolf-FluteSongs go to (outbound link removed per comment policy)

  20. J.r. Moondancer Robinson

    March 11, 2013 at 7:36 am

    Obama & his loyal Democratic Control Congress at it again. Today the Wolf, next MO,what, The Bald Eagle or maybe they’re start Whale Hunting off our coasts. For a President & Congress that’s suppose to be in tune to Global Warming & Our Nation’s Forests, it’s a sad day. Why can’t they see that the Great American Wolf is as much part of our forest lands as the tree’s. And to the cattlemen, cattle do not belong free grazing in our federal forestry.

  21. Joe Ogrodnik

    March 11, 2013 at 10:50 am

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments
    Now is the time to take action and I provided a link to the White House. Ask them to restore federal protection to wolves.

  22. Lloyd

    March 11, 2013 at 11:25 am

    “Even Adolf Hitler thought it important to protect the wolves.” So he thought it was right to protect the wolves but let’s kill all the Jews? Nice example.

    • Michael John Scott

      March 11, 2013 at 4:06 pm

      Does this article have anything whatsoever to do with Jews? No. It’s about wolves. You made it about Jews. Go away.

    • Andrea Diamond

      March 12, 2013 at 1:03 am

      So agreed, Like Adolf Hitler is a good example of ANYTHING… What twisted logic. Michael Joh Scott, YOU missed the point.

      • Michael John Scott

        March 12, 2013 at 12:43 pm

        Alright then Andrea, time for a lesson in history. Before the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1939, followed quickly by the invasion of Poland and the second world war, Herr Hitler instituted some forward thinking policies and laws that survive to this day. No one is denying that he was a bad guy, but even bad guys, on occasion, are capable of good things. Check out this story and try to have an open mind:

        http://madmikesamerica.com/2011/08/from-the-ashes-of-evil-ten-good-things-the-nazis-did/

    • Dr Monika Fisher

      March 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm

      Wolves are not money-worshipping parasitic vermin !!

  23. Norman Rampart

    March 11, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    Wolves are magnificent animals. It’s a shame they became extinct in Scotland 100’s of years ago. There has been talk of re-introducing them. It would be great but I suspect the Health & Safety brigade will stop it.

  24. Sarah

    March 13, 2013 at 11:55 am

    I find this totally disgusting and appalling I will no longer vote dem or Rep ever again I will go independent

    • Michael John Scott

      March 13, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      Good for you Sara. I can’t remember the last time I was so disappointed in a president and so angry at the congress. Shame.

  25. Gail

    March 15, 2013 at 9:53 am

    This is a dsgrace having this done to these wolves part of the God’s plan.But then the Democrats (Obama) signed the bill to have the babies brain removed if aborted alive.Why are the Republicans dealing with Democrats who are destroying our country.I say throw them all out and change your party to Independent.I am very angry about this.The government kills the helpless and innocent

  26. Tsali Ticonderoga

    March 25, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    This evil and abomination to one of Gods creatures ttthat He called good.

  27. John Downs

    April 3, 2013 at 1:34 am

    Leave our wolves/cyotes alone……God put them here for a reason and God’s plans are never wrong.there should have not been any deals cut for votes……that is just plum stupid//BEWARE:OBAMA & HIS GOONIES ARE COMING FOR US(THE PEOPLE)NEXT,WE WILL BE “THE HUNTED”.

    • Michael John Scott

      April 3, 2013 at 9:09 am

      If there were a God he would be an evil one indeed. Secondly, to think Obama is coming after “the people” is Deep South delusion that has also infected the Wolf Killing states. What utter nonsense.

  28. ashley powell

    January 17, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    killing wolves is wrong if u kill wolves it effects every thing! they hurt humans because we hurt them we provoke them and THIS IS A DISCRACE TO THE WOLF NAME! wolves are brave wolves are loyal wolves are wolves are innocent they fight day and night to survive its hard enough without us killing them! THIS IS A SIN! GOD WILL SHOW HIS WRATH! I HATE OBAMA! I CURSE ANY OF THE HUNTERS! WOLVES ARE INOCENT NOBLE ANIMALS! SIN! SIN! SIN!

    • Michael John Scott

      January 17, 2014 at 6:31 pm

      Well I don’t think much of the GOD part, because I don’t believe in such things, but the rest of your comment I pretty much agree with….