63 responses

  1. jenny40
    September 1, 2011

    I so hope this isn’t true, but somehow I suspect it is.

    • jwhitehawke
      May 27, 2012

      In the last 100 years, over 151,000,000 people were assassinated by their OWN governments……. NOT due to war. Certainly this is what happens during wars on others….

      • holycrapbucket
        May 27, 2012

        Whose ass did you pull that lovely statistic from?

      • Anonymous
        May 27, 2012

        I’m willing to believe that the number is high up when you include the whole century and all countries. That includes places like the USSR under Stalin, Maoist China, Nazi Germany, and Cambodia during the Khmer Rouge era. Stalin alone is responsible for the deaths of 43 million of his own citizens. 151 million does not surprise me.

      • annnonnn
        May 27, 2012

        That would be 2% of the world’s population, or 1 out of every 50 people alive…

      • es0terick
        May 28, 2012

        Wait, are you saying that that would be 2% of the world’s population right now, or 2% of the number of people who who were alive during the past 100 years. Because those are two very different things, and the first number would hardly mean anything in the context of this discussion. (same with “1 out of 50 people”)

      • User
        May 28, 2012

        If it was world population right now, the stat would be 0.00%, since once you die you’re no longer part of the population.

      • drrrrrt
        May 27, 2012

        That’s a strangely precise number you made up.

      • Anonymous
        May 27, 2012

        source for that stat?

      • Mr. Right
        May 27, 2012

        Alright, you lazy good for nothing internet dwelling neck bearded losers.

        I took the ONE MINUTE upon myself to actually google this and get actual statistics:

        “The megamurdering states of the 20th century have been: the U.S.S.R. (1917-1987), 61,911,000; Communist China (1949-1987), 35,236,000; Nazi Germany (1933-1945), 20,946,000; and Nationalist (or Kuomintang) China (1928-1949), 10,076,000. These are followed by the “lesser” megamurdering states: Japan (1936-1945), 5,964,000; Cambodia (1975-1979), 2,035,000; Turkey (1909-1918), 1,883,000; Vietnam (1945-1987), 1,678,000; North Korea (1948-1987), 1,663,000; Poland (1945-1948), 1,585,000; Pakistan (1958-1987), 1,503,000; Mexico (1900-1920), 1,417,000; Yugoslavia (1944-1987), 1,072,000; Czarist Russia (1900-1917), 1,066,000.”

        http://www.fff.org/freedom/1094f.asp

        You’re welcome, and screw you.

      • Anonymous
        May 27, 2012

        Grand total: 468,035,000

      • Bob
        May 27, 2012

        No reason to be an asshole about it! :D

        holycrapbucket had every right to be skeptical and demand info because the BURDEN OF PROOF was on the guy who made the claim.

        Enjoy your miserable life!

      • Wholemeal
        May 28, 2012

        That’s not the statistics she claims.

      • annnonnn
        May 27, 2012

        That would be 2% of the world’s population, or 1 out of every 50 people alive…

      • Anonymous
        May 28, 2012

        Over the course of 100 years.

      • Psi
        May 27, 2012

        In my country more than 7 million people were killed by it’s government in one act of genocide. It was in Soviet Ukraine in 1932-33 when Stalin and Soviet government took all the food and made people starve to death. We call this genocide Holodomor.

      • Eva
        May 27, 2012

        So this makes it okay? Your comment is ridiculous.

    • Anonymous
      May 28, 2012

      Of course it’s true. The U.S. trains it’s soldiers to kill. Torture,shooting civilians, including the elderly & children at point blank range. Were these guys having fun? The U.S. has destroyed Iraq, done grave damage to the Iraqi people & continues to occupy the country with soldiers like these. I hope there will be justice for these civilian victims. End the occupations in Iraq & Afghanistan. End impunity & respect human rights please.

  2. Bradley Scott
    September 1, 2011

    An air strike destroys an apartment building in Iraq. Of the 19 Iraqis killed, 4 are said to be ‘lieutenants’ of the ‘high-ranking’ al Qaeda operative who was the target of the strike, but was not home at the time, so to speak. The other 15 are, or more accurately, were, tenants, their guests. Civillians. This was termed by those who speak on behalf of our forces in Iraq as,’a successful mission, with acceptable collateral damage.’ Now extrapolate. If, of the Iraqis who were caught under the hail of U.S. bombs and bullets, 75% were civillians, 20% percent were legitimate, if low value targets, and 5% were high value targets who got away, would not the entire war be termed ‘successful… with acceptable collateral damage?’ That being the prevailent mind set, the occurance of an incident like this, in my opinion, has only been a matter of time since this war started. Indeed, as this debacle required 5 1/2 months and wikileaks to surface, how many more such events may never come to light?
    P.S. If you’d like a better perspective on the percentages I’ve listed, apply them to the figures you’ll find at http://www.iraqbodycount.com

  3. missy
    March 5, 2012

    As a defender and protector of our country this should never ever happen!
    Our troops do an amazing job fighting and doing what most wont but if this is true then the soldiers who are responsable i hope are punished dearly.
    We are the protectors and guardens we save lives not to distroy inisent people! To tie their hands so they can’t protect their childen or themselves well there is no words for it! Many people die in combat we know this! Accidents happen where you have to make a choice and sometimes even if people don’t understand, you make the hardest choices cause they are the right ones most of the time, but this was NOT one of them!
    It doesn’t matter of race color relign we are people and these people were no different then us and our families.
    To see this of our own men is truely disterbing and i only prey that we learn from what people have done and fight to make it better!
    We all need to put differences aside and protect these people regardless of what we think and how we are raised. If a stranger could’ve saved a family memembers life and mad i difference wouldn’t you want them to put their life on the line for them?
    same thing so don’t punish the people for what others are doing.

    • Anonymous
      May 27, 2012

      “We are the protectors and guardens we save lives not to distroy inisent people!” [sic]

      Tell that to the people of Dresden. I’m sure they have something to say about that.

  4. john
    April 19, 2012

    who said that americans are perfect? troops are not perfect, the war is not perfect, civilized is a civil way, the arm forces teaches and forms civilians to be licensed killers/murderers, just because they have a US flag on the uniforms does not make them any better than anybody, its the US society who makes and accepts these arm forces full of murderers begining with BUSH father and son, United States should hang by the balls BUSH father and son, but no matter what happens the US will pay for all these atrocities just like all nazis are paying today.

    • bourque
      June 7, 2012

      Don’t lump two specific presidents, no less, of specific parties, no less, when there is another branch of govt responsible for the bullshit happening, regardless of their ridiculous political affiliations. it’s the fact they are politicians and think this type of crap is completely justified because of it.

      yet no one feels the need to exercise their 2nd amendments at the doorsteps of the executive and legislative branches. sigh.

  5. Larry
    May 27, 2012

    I am not making excuses, but no nation is immune to committing atrocities in war, and the sad fact is, that the US seems to be committing more of them as time goes on.

  6. Dae Anderson
    May 27, 2012

    Wait a minute. I thought Wikileaks had access to inter office notes and emails surrounding embassy communications. THIS was in an EMAIL??? source please, or at least a link. TY

    • Michael John Scott
      May 27, 2012

      The source is listed not once, but twice.

  7. W
    May 27, 2012

    Not all military members are psychopathic killers, but a higher percentage of them are. It sickens me that we send these bastards to other countries. Killing children in cold blood, there are no lines with these sickos.

  8. Kain
    May 27, 2012

    The My Lai massacre of March 16, 1968, wherein 347-504 unarmed civilians were shot to death by U.S. forces during the Vietnam conflict, still speaks volumes about a nation such as the United States that has in fact, committed such atrocities.
    Can you see how blind you are?

  9. Anon
    May 27, 2012

    The human race: Still too stubborn, selfish, and greedy to solve conflicts diplomatically. What a disgusting species we are.

    • joelly
      May 27, 2012

      Thank You for saying that.
      Jehovah’s day is near, soon there will be a one world government under the rule of the designer. The human race has reduced everything to a shambles. Man does not have the ability do direct their own steps.

      • Truth
        May 27, 2012

        You are really fucked in the head.

      • Atheist
        May 27, 2012

        Came here to say this. If we’re in the hands of an imaginary being, we truly are fucked.

      • bourque
        June 7, 2012

        ¬_¬
        although, i’m apt to believe there is no singular designer for this globe, i agree with all else you’ve expressed.

    • Bob
      May 27, 2012

      You don’t like it? leave.

  10. Guinstigator
    May 27, 2012

    All countries can have people capable of murdering children, women and men. But the US has been fighting offensive war for decades now. We have not been involved in a “good” war for decades. So it is also the fault of soldiers who volunteer to enlist. Until the governmen stops declaring wars that are simply ways for the 1% to make more money, only 1%’ers should be fighting.

  11. jax
    May 27, 2012

    >five children ages five and under

    Five less future insurgents. . ;-)

    • jayduba
      May 27, 2012

      I love republicans !

      • jax
        May 27, 2012

        I’m actually an independent – gfy -

    • Anonymous
      May 27, 2012

      More like when this happens, the neighbors, cousins, and friends turn into freedom fighters for a cause that is truly right in retrospect.
      Plus, try being less of a devolved knuckle dragger. You might get the chance ( I hope not ) to reproduce in the future.

      • jax
        May 27, 2012

        I actually have reproduced and my 19 year old son lost both his legs when a 14 year old insurgent blew himself up while getting candy from our boys. So if you want to step off your high horse I can drag my knuckles across the side of your head.

      • Anonymous
        May 27, 2012

        They allowed you the right to reproduce?

      • Anonymous
        May 27, 2012

        Oh, of course! Your child is off limits, while mine are free game? Talk about high horses.

      • Anonymous
        May 27, 2012

        So you praise the killing of 5 children under 5, who were not involved in this ‘war’ (see your post(s) above), yet we should feel sorry for your 19 year old son who willingly attacked another country at their doorstep?

        You, sir, are one giant nut bag.

        I’m glad you got to feel this pain. One would think that this would wake you up and make you understand the pain ‘murica inflicts upon other nations.

      • bourque
        June 7, 2012

        you’re a pathetic individual.

        and from this second-hand experience of yours, what ‘rights’ have you so deservedly earned? aside from potential medical bills, and a son who has some degree of ptsd? aside the ‘right’ to declare, as a usican, who is more deserving to live?

    • Anonymous
      May 27, 2012

      I bet you think you’re funny, Bubba.

  12. ANON
    May 27, 2012

    It’s great to see all of this debate on the meaning of war and how evil men can be. Personally I believe that the unimaginable stress of combat can provoke even the most resilient man to commit horrible acts. The US military is great at disciplining it’s troops, but occasionally shit happens. For all of the people complaining about how evil American troops are because of My Lai and the recent controversy about troops pissing on dead insurgents in Afghanistian, keep in mind that there are far worse atrocities that are constantly being committed by non-American soldiers.

    • Anony
      May 27, 2012

      And that somehow excuses what happened? Because “Worse happens elsewhere”? That’s about the most ridiculous defense of these disgraceful human beings I’ve heard in a long time.

    • jayduba
      May 27, 2012

      Keep in mind others are evil, so we can be evil too.

      • sundance
        May 27, 2012

        as I recall the purpose of fighting evil is to get rid of it not join it,

  13. Z
    May 27, 2012

    unpopular question:

    if the household was harboring and supporting enemy activities in the area, then your options are:

    1. kill the militants/terrorists and let the family live to support another group of militants
    2. kill the militants/terrorists, arrest the family, then have them go free because the prisions are overflowing already
    3. kill the militants/terrorists and the family, since they’re all acting in tandem as the enemy.

    Unfortunately, the latter is what is deemed safest in war. The fact that it had to be done even without resistance make the emotions harder to bear. I don’t envy any person in that house that day. This is what means the expression “war is ugly”

    • Inside Job
      May 27, 2012

      Why not then just bomb the whole country? Like we did to Japan. Oh wait we can’t… how are we going to spread “democracy”, make billions on “reconstruction projects” and extract that precious oil.

    • Mr. Right
      May 27, 2012

      What are you? Some sort of fucking expert? We are NOT limited to those options.

      They bombed the crime scene (BECAUSE YES IT’S A CRIME TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE) to cover up for their damn mistake. It obviously wasn’t ‘by the book’.

      You also don’t think that by killing innocent people you are just inciting more anger and thus provoking more attacks? If someone were to kill my neighbours and then bomb my neighbourhood to cover up I’d want to kill those assholes.

      Use that supercomputer in your head and actually sit down and THINK FOR YOURSELF, damn it.

      They say the internet makes you angry and bitter, I contest this statement by saying stupid people make you angry and bitter and that there’s no lack of them on the internet.

  14. TigDamIg
    May 27, 2012

    Wow that really makes me mad!
    Anon-Bits.tk

  15. Inside Job
    May 27, 2012

    I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true, in fact I believe it and think if this happened and was leaked then there must be other numerous incidents like this. Heck, police in our own country raid wrong houses, kill veterans and dogs, and all they can say is “Oops”. Do you really think the military care in that chaos? This is just plain atrocious.

  16. ANTI-FREEMASON
    May 27, 2012

    Well this is to mr.Z,

    here is another few possibilities for you…and i have answers…

    1. What if, some of the soldiers raped one of the children/girls or a man even (since American troops are known to be gays too) and some members of the family shouted…and this soldiers killed him/her…and in order of fear…they catch all of them and killed them. How about that one for a possibility?

    2. Your ridiculous possibility is nothing close to valid because why would you hand tie a less then 5 year old child? the poor kid was used to help al-qaeda? perhaps you should kill all the children in America who is working as pushers and drug distributors to…so your version of America can be safe?

    Finally, I am an Iraqi and i just like to tell you…what you are suffering now and will suffer more and more in the US and Europe is what you get after you invade Iraq…by 2015 your economy will be sucked dry…and your so called heroes of freedom (US army troops) will end up homeless beggars!

    This is a fact…and soon you will see! 2015 your hunger will be seen clearly! blame the republicans and blame bush…perhaps the next war will be much nearer to your home…and bare in mind…Mexico will eat you inside out! and just a reminder…you American have never fought a war inside your territory since the modern ages have started…you will the vengeance of the father of all civilizations!

  17. Me
    May 27, 2012

    Every nation at every time has licensed atrocities. In the end, it is the choice of those who stab the sword or pull the trigger or let loose the arrow. Don’t vilify the US now unless you’re also going to acknowledge that (a) your country has licensed such a crime in the past or (b) your country has never been in a position to license such a crime.

  18. Jim Strathmeyer
    May 27, 2012

    Maybe they learned it from the US police and justice system?

  19. Alexander
    May 28, 2012

    If they were in fact Al Qaeda, then what’s wrong with us killing them before they kill us? And please don’t start with the “innocent” children, women, etc. That is an arbitrary distinction that Al Qaeda does not recognize – their women and children kill as just as well as their men.

    Regarding My Lai mentioned in the article: The entire village consisted of only women, children and old people. Isn’t that a bit strange? Well, actually, not strange at all. The men in that village had all belonged to the Viet Cong (the ones that didn’t were killed by their own people). When the American troops approached, they were warned and slipped away into the jungle, leaving their “innocent” supporters. Those women and children were part of the Viet Cong structure and were as legitimate a target as the men that left them there. Of course, not a PR palatable target, but legitimate nevertheless. You won’t find this in the history books because, for obvious reasons, no one wants to admit to the facts.

  20. farida
    May 28, 2012

    and the american people are confused why the rest of the world hates them. this is a glimpse why.

    this is a glimpse why no country wants usa people in their country.

    and the american people call others terrorist, when they are the terrorists. they put hitler to shame.

    they don’t trust in God; they trust in gold, oil, and destruction.

    america, get the hell out of people’s countries and start taking care of your streets filled with homeless, drug-addicts, white-trash prostitutes, child-teenage moms, daddy pedophiles, and other kinds of white trash you see lying around…

    • bourque
      June 7, 2012

      I say something similar to this, though a huge issue is usicans think they are the owners of all, thus feel they have free range to dictate how something is in a country they are not from nor know laws of.

      and i’ll say it again: this nation is nowhere near “united” because barely anyone has respect for each other, let alone can look one another in the EYE and smile to simply acknowledge their existence…gripping purses and children if they see anyone other than a white person in a suit, which, by the way, i’d be a thousand times more suspicious of than someone who looks raggedy. and if you really think about it, everyone has more than likely had the worst experiences with [white] ‘suits’ and the like, than any other opposite looking person.

  21. anon
    May 29, 2012

    Oh america, you never cease to surprise me with murder.

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