Staying Fit: About Human Growth Hormone (HGH)
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Today, I am starting on a little fitness experiment. Some of you may have heard of Human Growth Hormone (HGH) that some athletes and actors (Sylvester Stallone being one) are taking to delay loss of muscle and bone, muscle tone, and skin tone that appears with aging. The actual HGH is expensive ($2000+ each month) and requires daily injections of it.
I have found several companies selling an oral compound that is reputed to cause your body to produce more HGH by itself. The natural production of HGH is much higher during youth and tends to taper off with age. Restoring those levels is what is supposed to delay the loss of muscle mass and tome, etc.
Being the inquisitive, cynical person I am, I did some research on found mixed results. Naturally the reviews on the web sites of companies selling the supplements were all very positive. I discarded those as being something less than objective.
Other sites with no connection to sellers were mixed. Some said the top products could be very effective and other sites were more skeptical. It seems that most of the positive sites had a caveat that the supplements alone were, at best, minimally effective unless accompanied with a healthy diet and consistent exercise. As I am already doing the diet and exercise part, I decided t is worth a try.
Starting today, I am taking a supplement called GenF20. I have a 3 month supply to start. That should be enough to give it a fair trial.
If anyone is interested, I’ll keep you posted on the effects, if any, and we’ll see. As a few know, I have never been a fan of supplements and never sold any in my Nautilus facility in Tucson. That s not to say that some supplements cannot be helpful but none that were offered as body building seemed to do anything at all other than to make the users have very expensive urine.
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End of experiment.
I’ve given this a bit more time between reports as I wanted to be sure about it. Also, Ive had some other distractions here that delayed my writing about it.
In any case, there has been no changes for months, even though I have followed the routine prescribed faithfully.
Mu conclusion is, the HGH supplements are not effective. The initial improvement I felt in my had has mostly disappeared. There have been no other changes worth noting, so I am disappointed, but not really surprised. In all my years in the fitness business, I have never found a supplement that was any benefit to anything except the seller’s bank account.
You can’t say you didn’t try James.
I did have my doubts from the start. This a time I would liked to have been wrong.
I have over twenty years in the fitness game and let me tell you buddy, I can assure you you’re not going to get any taller from taking growth hormones! I suggest you merely try to come to terms with your height and accept yourself for who you are, rather than trying to change what God gave you!
Dean Fiddler, you are not fooling anyone but yourself. You are still the stalker, liar, coward and fool I say you are. Everyone else knows it too.
What happened with that lecture/thesis you claimed to be presenting at Harvard? You lied about what it was so many times, I’m no longer certain which fable was in the lead.
What about my many offers to pay your wsy anywhere in the world so we could meet? Ignoring them doesn’t mean they didn’t happen and are not still available.
As for this piece of trash comment, all it shows is that you know nothing about HGH and that supplements are not the same as hormones. But demonstrating abysmal ignorance is always a hallmark of your fake ID posts.
BTW, I looked up some things about trolls and stalkers. They fit you so well I wonder if you were part of the study they did on them?
Here’s a sample:
The YouTube comment section is known as a special circle of hell—and that might be because the people leaving provocative comments are literally sadists and psychopaths, a new study titled “Trolls just want to have fun” has discovered.
Canadian psychologists Erin Buckels, Paul Trapnell, and Delroy Paulhus set up a survey of personality inventories matched with “Internet commenting styles”—in other words, they attempted to psychoanalyze commenters, which should be cause for a Nobel prize (and hazard pay) in itself. What came from the study will likely surprise no one: people who like to troll are also likely to show signs of “sadism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism.”
Those three character flaws make up the ominous “Dark Tetrad of personality.” Sadism means delighting in the harm of others, psychopathy is an antisocial personality disorder, and Machiavellianism means a person’s tendency to be unemotional and deceitful. Trolls seem to have all three on lock.
Of course, it might just be that the Internet has a tendency to turn people into sadists as a result of its anonymity. This was enshrined by the “online disinhibition effect” that leads us to treat other people online as less than human. (It’s also known by a less scientific name.) If we can’t see their faces, they’re not real, right?
Not all commenters are psychopaths, however. Thankfully the study concludes, “Enjoyment of other online activities, such as chatting and debating, was unrelated to sadism.
lLease accept my offer to meet. I have a sure cure for your psychopathic ways.
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What a weird reply. I’m afraid I have no idea what you are talking about or what / who a Dean Fiddler is :-S
I’m sorry if I offended you, this was not my intention, just trying to pass on a bit of knowledge gained from years of experience!
You’re still full of it and obviously do not know the difference between supplements and hormones. Nor do you know what the purpose of HGH when taken it pure medical form is.
So you’re “experience” is clearly a lie.
For only one example, Sylvester Stallone has been taking the real HGH for several years. Hs he grown any taller? No, nor did he expect to do so.
The purpose is to reduce muscle loss from aging and improve skin tone. As an actor this is important to his career, even though it seems to be pretty much over based upon the last film or two he has made.
Again, I am sorry if I have offended you (which I clearly have but am not sure how or why), I was only trying to help a brother in need by passing on a bit of info so you didn’t waste your time.
I guarantee that you cannot take any pill to increase your height. A man’s (or woman’s) height is merely one attribute of how God made him (or her).
Your rather bizarre example of the actor Sylvester Stallone is flawed and inaccurate. He already has really big muscles so clearly does not need to worry about muscle loss, but he is very short so like you will have taken hormones to try to increase his height. I would have thought this was quite obvious but there you go. After all, an actor’s height is considerably more important than his skin (and I hope by this you are not referring to race!).
I have a vast wealth of experience in the fitness industry my friend, it is not a lie. I’ve been a fanatic for over twenty years and also work in this industry. Next time you insult a stranger on the internet I suggest you check your facts first!
No offence taken and good luck with whatever it is you are trying to do! 🙂
Yes, you are Dean Fiddle, your obstinate refusal to recognize that the issue is nor what you want it to be shows that.
No one here has said that taking HGH will increase your height. That is simple a lie you are telling.
My example of Sly Stallone is not bizarre, flawed nor inaccurate. It is a simple illustration of facts. But then, facts are as foreign to you as ancient Sumerian is to me.
Your “experience” in the fitness industry,, if it were not a lie, would have told you far more than you have shown here, Dean.
I have been in the fitness industry for over 40 years and can prove it, as you well know. You have seen my proofs on photobucket but ignore those as you do anything else that does not agree with your stupidity. So check your facts before you spout off more proof of your ignorance and lies. Better yet, slink away as you always do. Make another fake ID and post your lies elsewhere.
I have no idea what or who you are talking about. See a doctor buddy, you’re starting to sound crazy!
Of course you don’t have any idea about anything but your own fantasies.
“See a doctor?” What an arrogant remark. I do notice the more ignorant a person is, the more arrogant they are about it. Thank you for demonstrating the truth of that again.
Makes sense to me Mr. Ghandi. My brother tried growth hormones against the advice of his doctor, and not only did they do nothing positive, they made him quite ill. He too was under the impression it will make one taller. How silly of him.
Yes, all I was trying to do was to warn Mr Smith of this but he seems to be frothing at the mouth all of a sudden! 🙂
Thanks for your input Rita. 🙂
“Frothing at the mouth?” More of your willful ignorance. But someone telling the truth and insisting upon proving it probably does offend some one like you.
Yes, you’re a liar and a fool.
FYI, moron, I am not “frothing” Only arrogant fools like you would go on about things they know nothing about. All you are doing is being a troll. Here’s more about that:
Canadian researchers have confirmed what most people suspected all along: that internet trolls are archetypal Machiavellian sadists.
In a survey conducted by the group of psychologists, people who partake in so-called trolling online showed signs of sadism, psychopathy, and were Machiavellian in their manipulation of others and their disregard for morality.
The researchers defined online trolling as “the practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet” for no purpose other than their pleasure.
To achieve the results, the team asked internet users about subjects including how much time they spend online, and whether they comment on websites such as YouTube.
They were also given tests that measured their responses against psychology’s “Dark Tetrad”: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy and a sadistic personality.
Questions also surrounded sadistic statements including: ”I enjoy physically hurting people,” “I enjoy making jokes at the expense of others” and “I enjoy playing the villain in games and torturing other characters.”
“It was sadism, however, that had the most robust associations with trolling of any of the personality measures,” said psychologists from the University of Manitoba, University of Winnipeg and University of British Columbia in an article published in the ‘Personality and Individual Differences’ journal.
It went on to claim that trolls are “agents of chaos” that exploit “hot-button issues” to inflame and exploit users’ emotions.
“If an unfortunate person falls into their trap, trolling intensifies for further, merciless amusement. This is why novice Internet users are routinely admonished, ‘Do not feed the trolls!’,” the study warned.
The team concluded that those who enjoyed trolling more than other activities, such debating and making friends, had tendencies in line with the psychological “Dark Tetrad”.
Perhaps most worryingly, the psychologists based their conclusion on cyber-trolling being an “Internet manifestation of everyday sadism,” rather than merely on online phenomenon.
It is thought the findings may contribute towards a trend of sites such as YouTube and the Huffington Post requiring users to comment using registered accounts rather than allowing anonymous posts.
Wear that shoe, it fits you.
This Ghandi character, whoever he really is, made up the part about HGH making you taller. Only the ignorant would believe that.
I never mentioned anything about that. I said from the beginning that it was an experiment and it was not really HGH, it was a dietary supplement that might stimulate your body’s natural production of HGH. I also said what I was looking for was some protection against the loss of muscle mass and some relief from minor joint stiffness and pain.
Of course, Mr. “GHandi” chose to ignore all of the facts to spout his own lies and stupidity. How said that you buy into it, too.
Not one person I have ever known that has taken either the supplements or the actual injections of medical HGH has expected t grow taller. That’s simply not even mentioned anywhere in the research or even advertisements for HGH or the supplements.
Sandra Towers, Fred West, Carole Mayer, Maddie Carlson, Kelly Jones and possibly Phil Ghandi is one troll using proxy IP’s every time it posts. I’m going to spam its comments so please don’t bother to respond to it. Responding only feeds it, like blood to vampires, so please don’t feed the trolls. I hate trolls.
Sixty-Day Update
There’s nothing major to report. My hands, especially the left hand, where I was most concerned, does seem to be improved. It is still often stiff in the morning and painful to make a fist. But it is not nearly as bad as it was. This is one of my major goals so I have a hope that it might continue to improve.
One possible side effect is that fr several weeks I felt bloated and as if I had always just eaten a large meal. Knowing had not and did need t eat, I had to force myself to have my usual meals. All of that may have been from something else such as a mild intestinal bug. It has gone away and I feel normal so who can say?
Through all of this, I have to keep in mind that this is not a truly scientific test with a double blind group and some receiving placebos. What we are really looking at is a single data point (me) and some impressions can easily be just that, perceptions and nothing worthy of a peer review. You’ve been warned. Have your pinch of salt ready and “your mileage may vary.” 😀
Thanks for the update James and good luck to you.
Ninety Day report.
I have to say, my hands are definitely better. The left one is still a bit stiff and painful sometimes. But nothing at all like it was. That alone has been worth the trial.
I was hoping to see an improvement in my knees, especially the left one, but nothing seems to have changed there. Then again, most of the problem has been from injuries from 40 years ago or more. Perhaps expecting a change there was unrealistic.
In my exercise program, I have not noticed any changes other than the slow progress I have been making. My weight has stayed the same at about 67-68 kilos. It has been normal for me to vary that much for some time, so nothing startling there.
As always, this has been unscientific and the improvement in my hands could be a natural process that has nothing to do with the supplements.
In any case, tomorrow I will continue with a different brand.
Stay tuned to this site for a report in January.
One month update:
I didn’t expect anything this quickly and there doesn’t seem to be anything dramatic. But I have gained a little over a kilo. That doesn’t sound like much but that’s more variation in weight than I usually show. My diet and activity level has not changed.
I do sometimes think that the stiffness and pain at night in my left hand is not as bad. But That will take more time to be certain.
I’m trying very hard to stick very strictly to the prescribed program. It requires that I take two pills one hour before eating at mid day and in the evening. A couple of times, I’ve forgotten about the one hour thing, but I doubt that could have much effect.
Next report, November 27 or when I see a change, whatever happens first. 😀
As someone who has joint problems, I look forward to reading about your progress.
Joint problems are a major area of my interest, too. So updates will be coming to a web site near you. 🙂
I think I’ll make them monthly things as it’s probably unrealistic to expect anything faster than that. So probably around November 1, I’ll put up something. If anyone wants one via email, let Mike know and he can give you my email. It’ll be fun discussing it anyway, right?
I’m intrigued by the possibilities, especially when used by someone who sounds like they’ll be objective in their reporting.
I have no need to lose any weight. I easily control that with diet and exercise. I do hope to improve skin tone and to loosen up my hands and elbows.
As far as I know, this product makes no claims for weight loss.
I’m not inclined to go beyond diet and exercise. I’ve found something as simple as Weight Watchers works quite well, as does walking several miles a day, and lifting weights 3 times a week. I’ve lost close to 20 pounds in the last 4-5 months following this regimen.
I did this stuff a while back. I think I noticed benefits right off the bat, but after a couple of months what improvements there were seemed to stop improving. The only benefit I can say I really had long term was that an old knee injury that had made it difficult to kneel on that knee improved markedly — otherwise it was a flash in the pan.
Of course, your results may vary, as they say.
That’s encouraging. I’m not surprised that there cold be a limit to improvements. If it did that, we’d all be 21 again. 😀
It’s encouraging about the knee, too. I have one that’s been a problem since my 20s. Having hurt it twice more since the first time probably has not helped matters any.How long did it take for you to notice a difference?
I think if I have the same experience with tapering off, I’ll go on a maintenance program and maybe only take half of what they recommend.
Still, improvement in my hands would be a nice Xmas present for me. 🙂