Will Britain, Like the US, Swing To The Right?

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A regular commenter at MMA, ‘Cherries’ recently pointed out that, given the impossibility of predicting the outcome of Britain’s ever nearing general election, one possible outcome would be a Conservative government propped up by UKIP.

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This, of course, would be dependent on firstly, the Conservatives gaining more votes than Labour which, at the moment, seems likely. What is unlikely, even with a Conservative ‘victory’, is that they would actually have enough seats in Parliament to actually govern independently.

If, and it’s still a big ‘if’, UKIP actually do as well as some are predicting and, in so doing, they don’t terminally damage the Conservatives allowing Labour in ‘by the back door’ one of many possible permutations would be that the Conservatives might need UKIP support to govern with a majority.

Now. One would assume that if this scenario came to pass we would –

A) Get a genuine in / out referendum on the EU which would be excellent news for our democracy regardless of the outcome as we deserve such a referendum.

B) Get to work on controlling our borders and preventing immigration that would be detrimental to us. In other words, only immigrants who would benefit the country would be allowed in as often as not.

Both these things would come under the heading of ‘very good’ for all sane people.

What else would happen with a Conservative / UKIP government?

Well, for one thing, Britain would have the most ‘right wing’ government in memory and, I suspect, ever.

Personally, I’m so fed up with ‘multi-everything’ and ‘mass immigration’ and ‘political correctness’ that my knee jerk reaction is ‘GREAT!!! WHOOPEE!!’

Somewhere in the depths of what passes for my mind there seems, inexplicably, to be a slight stirring of doubt. A tiny molecule of a ‘what if it all goes horribly wrong’ kind of thought.

You see, despite Cherries and others insisting I am the spawn of Adolph Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Attila the Hun and Margaret Thatcher (I have no idea which one is my father) my politics, in general, are pretty moderate and, I always thought, somewhat ‘central’.

I wholeheartedly agree that mass immigration has been disastrous for Britain whilst wholeheartedly agreeing that some immigration has been excellent for Britain. I feel far more comfortable on ‘the middle ground’. Extremism of any kind appals me. There, I think, is ‘the rub.

For decades we have suffered the extremes of Britain’s ‘left’ trying to ‘rub the noses’ of Britain’s ‘right’ in it – whatever ‘it’ is – with their endeavours at creating a multi-culturalism, multi-faith, multi-ethnic and multi-everything nirvana.

Robinson’s had to remove their ‘Gollies’ off their jam and marmalade jars. The children’s nursery rhyme ‘Baa-baa black sheep’ was frowned upon. Employers are chastised and even fined if they don’t employ enough people from ‘ethnic backgrounds’ – apparently just employing ‘the best person for the job’ isn’t acceptable any more.

‘Positive discrimination’ was long a mantra of Britain’s left seemingly oblivious to the startlingly obvious fact that if you ‘positively discriminate’ in favour of some then, clearly, you ‘negatively discriminate’ against others.

I could go on but I heard you at the back saying ‘Oh please don’t Norman!’ so I won’t. There are literally hundreds of examples of Britain’s ‘left’ making a right ‘pigs ear’ out of pretty much anything they got involved with.

Only today, the BBC (who aren’t remotely biased to the left of course) have announced that their ‘Radio 2’ station is ‘too white’. I beg your pardon? They want a radio station in colour? That I’d like to see 😉

Apparently too many listeners to Radio 2 are white. Well, pardon us for being alive and breathing and prefering good old rock music to ethnic music or ‘young peoples music’ as the BBC seem to refer to anything more than ten minutes old. I apologise on the behalf of all us whities everywhere for having the audacity to listen to Radio 2 from time to time so we can listen to David Bowie and Queen and Green Day rather than Ravi Sharma singing Bollywood film classics.

There is a real danger here peeps.

So many of us are so fed up to the back teeth with Britain’s ‘left’ (which, I insist, has remarkably little in common with America’s albeit certainly some things in common) that there has been an ever so slow swing to the right.

It has been ever so slow as we are loathe to swing too far in any direction and, prior to UKIP, there hasn’t been any political party on the ‘right’ that we would have dared go near before.

UKIP have done a damn good job of ‘selling themselves’ to an increasing number of us – Farage deserves credit for that – but ever so gently, like a very slow burning ember somewhere almost intangible in the deepest darkest depths of what passes for my mind am I starting to wonder?

What will happen if Britain wakes up after the general election with the most right wing government in our history?

The early days would almost assuredly be quite magnificent for so many of us but what follows? Would capitalism run out of control and health insurance a la America follow? Would the wealthy have almost total control and us poor slobs be beaten ever further down life’s slippery slope?

It’s a worry in’t it?

What ever happened to pragmatism in politics. You know, this is a good idea (left), that’s a good idea (right) so let’s do it! Who cares if those who wish to call something ‘left’ or ‘right’ do so? If it’s a good thing then ‘cherry pick’ and lo and behold, you are a ‘middle ground’ political party. You do what is right regardless of whether the ‘left’ or ‘right’ hate it.

You protect the natural environment at all times. You give free care to the elderly in what ever way they need. You give a genuine and honest education to all children. You protect children at all costs. You protect animals at all costs. You close your borders to mass immigration and protect British values at all costs. You insist that immigrants swear loyalty to Britain and British values. You take care of our armed service personnel physically or psychologically injured in perpetuity for free . You decline to give any financial aid to any where outside Britain until everyone within Britain is living a decent and financially secure life. You make the police walk their beat on foot to get to know their communities and people.

You are a government of the people for the people.

You do what is right for the people of Britain.

Now that would be my party.

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I am English first, British second and never ever European. I have supported Oldham Athletic FC for 50 years which has made me immune from depression. My taste buds have died due to too many red hot curries so I drink Kronenburg beer and milk - sometimes in the same glass. I have a wife, daughter, 9 cats and I like toast.
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9 years ago

We all of us need to bloody hide form time to time and if you live East London and ain’t a fookin’ Muzzie ya best not dawdle I say.

Reply to  bestie b.
9 years ago

Having been to East London – Mile End – many times as my daughter went to Queen Mary Uni there I can say it is what I imagine much of Islamabad is probably like.

Very disconcerting for an Englishman isn’t it bestie b?

9 years ago

Just be who you are Norman. It’s better than trying to hide it, and your friends over here won’t really care although they will have words for you. Never know. Many may feel just as you do, because your Left is our Left and our Right is your Right no matter what you think.

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Rachael
9 years ago

I AM me Rachel. I don’t believe in ‘left’ or ‘right’ in politics. I believe in pragmatism and realism and not being afraid to state the bleedin’ obvious for fear of offending.

I might hide if some mad mullah issues a fatwa against me but I doubt it. Me? Hide? Get away! 😉

9 years ago

Nowt wrong with UKIP if it gets the muzzies and the gollies out of here.

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Prince Charlie
9 years ago

Don’t be silly Charlie. Be realistic not racist eh? I understand the frustration that has caused your remark but…

There are many Mulsim’s in Britain proud to be British and very appreciative of the opportunities they have received in Britain. It is the extremists and those who feel no loyalty to Britain that we need ‘out of here’ mate.

As for the gollies remark. Really? Come on mate. Let’s be sensible eh?

That route leads to ‘white supremacy’ and, believe me, that is not a route any sane person ever wants to take.

9 years ago

UKIP is a so-called patriotic party that promotes independence: from the EU, and from government interference. They claim to believe in free trade, lower taxes, personal freedom and responsibility. UKIP believes in Britain becoming a democratic, self-governing country once again. In these respects they are exactly like American’s Tea Party, and with respect to a gathering of loons they’re a carbon copy of America’s Tea Party.

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Anonymous
9 years ago

I’m confused Anon. What, precisely, is wrong with wanting anything that you’ve listed?

Cherries
9 years ago

All the bleating about what a middle of the road person you are sounds quite convincing probably to some but I don’t buy it. You seem to always talk about extreme lefties – we need to worry about extreme right of which UKIP, who you support, is full of, as we read about most days.

The thought of a Conservative/UKIP government is very unlikely but would be a nightmare scenario.

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Cherries
9 years ago

Valid point Cherries. I am worried that UKIP’s acceptance into mainstream politics has made them attractive to former BNP people etc.

In fairness Farage has expelled any of that ilk who have ‘shown themselves’ but, of course, there may be some who haven’t.

Mind you,there’s been one or two ex-BNP pop up in Labour’s ranks which really did surprise me.

The extreme right are not a force in British politics – which is why they will find UKIP attractive as UKIP are ‘right’ but not extreme. If Farage fails to keep out the extreme right UKIP will vanish as did the BNP and National Front.

The more extreme left however are a force to be reckoned with hence I worry more about left extremes than right.

Political extremes are bad news for us all. Left or right.

Marsha Woerner
9 years ago

Norman and Bill,
Hear hear!!

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Marsha Woerner
9 years ago

“We’re here! We’re there! We’re every f*ck*ng where! Norm and Bill, Norm and Bill!”

I’m so so sorry…I thought I was a football hooligan again 😉

Arrgh! Not that I ever was a football hooligan of course!!! Honest!!!

…I’ll shut up now 😉

Reply to  Marsha Woerner
9 years ago

Looks like ole Norm has had few voddies. He doesn’t grasp verbal concepts well when he’s been funneling alcohol.

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Anonymous
9 years ago

You know me so so well 😉

Bill Formby
9 years ago

Norman, as I have often pointed out, the English people have more of a right to complain about immigration than America. Britannia dealt with their immigration issues more than 1500 years ago and it took them some where in the neighborhood of six or seven hundred years to get it half way right before screwing it up again recently. America, on the other hand, billed itself as the land of hope and promise and actively sought the immigration of peoples from around the world, in some cases like the African Americans whether they wanted to immigrate or not. But Britain had established its culture and customs on solid ground and had every right to be picky about who came to Britain and who could not. Americans have this problem of thinking that because their ancestors came to this land of plenty a few hundred years ago they now have the right to scream and gnash their teeth about anyone who even looks like they are wanting to come to America. This is roughly the equivalent to the Romans bitching about the Vikings invading Britain, or Harold complaining about William at the Battle of Hastings. “I’m sorry, but it is not really settled at this point exactly who this land belongs to so I am trying to lay my claim while I can,” Which, of course, William did.
So, Norman, I think you and your middle of the road gang do have right to ask for consideration in this onslaught of people who hate where they live so bad they want to come to your country and make it just like the place they just left. Which, again, makes no sense at all. Just as the people in America or Great Britain who decide they want to fight for ISIS. I think they have every right to do that, BUT I think once they swear their allegiance to a sworn enemy of our countries they have thereby forfeited their citizenship in our countries and can never return again.

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Bill Formby
9 years ago

Nice one Bill. Nice one.

9 years ago

Makes no sense Normie old boy. And America’s LEFT is just like Britain’s LEFT. They are liberals who give a shit about all the things you give a shit about, except arresting and deporting everyone who wasn’t born in country.

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Barbara Lutron
9 years ago

Hi Barbara. Actually, giving a shit isn’t the preserve of purely the left you know.

Personally I dispute that I am ‘right’ other than on immigration and the EU. On all other things I am resolutely with the left I suppose. Environment, Global warming, health care, animal welfare etc etc etc. Mind you, you say as much so thank you for noticing that 😉

Not being American I must bow to your judgement re the similarity between the two lefts but I’m not entirely convinced 😉

Perhaps it is, for want of a better description, the extreme left to who I am actually referring?

They only seem to care about their views and have neither the wit nor respect for their fellows to discuss anything in a civilised way.

Only last Sunday a group of extreme(?) left wingers actually invaded a small village pub to have a go at UKIP’s leader Nigel Farage.

They have every right to ‘have a go’ verbally but really? On a Sunday as he sat down for Sunday lunch with his family?

It’s that sort of behaviour along with their blind insistence that any suggestion that mass immigration has been disastrous is racist.

It isn’t. It’s got nothing to do with race, creed, colour or faith. It’s merely common sense.

Too many people = the infrastructure crumbling.

It isn’t racist it’s a numbers game. Simples. x

Norman Rampart
Reply to  Barbara Lutron
9 years ago

Thank you for noticing that I’m actually ‘of the left’ when it comes to everything other than immigration and the EU.

Animal welfare? Environmental issues? Global warming? Health care for all? Yep! I’m left or liberal or what ever it is all the way!!!

I don’t want to see everyone not born in Britain arrested nor deported. I want them to swear allegiance to Britain and British values – not unlike the American way really?

I also want us to have controls on our borders and be able to turn away anyone who would not be of benefit to Britain (accepting that genuine asylum seekers may be an exception but, again, with strict controls).

I’m actually baffled why something I see as common sense is deemed right wing?

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