God’s Little Corner: A Question for the Believers

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We will now take literary notice of the “fact” that there is a God.  So, given that we all now believe in the existence of an all powerful deity here is the question:

Can God create a bigger rock than he can roll?

Please leave your response in comments and don’t forget you are only being asked to believe in God on Friday.

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scott
13 years ago

im trying to come to terms with this. if such a deity were to make such a rock, then wouldnt its purpose be to stay put?. i mean a rock is nothing more than a big large grain of sand right? ..a big nough wind can move gazillions of tons of ..sand.. in the big picture a desert full of other un movable grains of sand.. just need the right wind ..in the right galaxy ..jes sayin..

13 years ago

Yes God could do this…The big fucking God rock, now referred as the BFGR, is created in a superposition quantum state.

Because of the uncertainity of the physical nature of the rock created in Hilbert Time-Space, the rock is both rollable and yet also unrollable.

The BFGR state would continue in this flux of quantum coherency until measured or observed. Once observed, the quantum nature of the BFGR collapses into a definable state of Holy Roller-ness. But because God chooses not observe the BFGR, the question can be answered with a obvious yes/no.

Hey, what can you expect from someone that responds to questions with answers like “I am what I am”?

Reply to  Krell
13 years ago

You sound like that Schrödinger guy who used to do nasty stuff with cats…..

Reply to  Infidel753
13 years ago

Actually, Schrodinger initially wanted to use his brother-in-law for that mind experiment but was later changed to a cat.

As for me, I am still in constant struggle with the “Chicken and the Egg” paradox.

Butterfly
Reply to  Krell
13 years ago

The paradox “Which came first, the chicken or the egg?” is an easy one for me. Eggs have been around for millions of years; reptiles hatch from eggs. What most people mean, but don’t actually ask is “Which came first, the chicken or ITS egg?” That’s much harder to know.
The trouble with most paradoxical questions is in the wording. Could God lift that super heavy rock? Yes, even if it was too heavy for Her to lift. That’s what the human concept of omnipotence encompasses. God is an all-powerful being that can create rocks too heavy for Herself to lift, then, lift them when she chooses.
The thing about God, I believe, is that the faithful have no trouble seeing the two sides of this rock at the same time. Schrodinger’s cat is both alive and dead. Those who are questioning can only see the rock as being too heavy or God as being able to lift it. God is all things. And being all things requires a finesse that only the innocent or over-analyzers can come to terms with. Other folks call it coincidence.

osori
Reply to  Krell
13 years ago

Krell,
If you’re referring to Popeye, “I yam what I yam” used to seem kinda prophetic to me.

Reply to  osori
13 years ago

LOL Osori
I think it was something like “I am what I is” that Yahweh said to Moses which seems sort of vague and lacking in proper sentence structure.

Actually “Ehyeh asher ehyeh” or “I am that I am” seems a lot more confusing than Popeye’s constant wood for Olive Oyl, so I leaning towards the “I yam what I yam” as the more prophetic.

13 years ago

If god is omnipotent, then why are his followers so stupid?

Reply to  Jerry Critter
13 years ago

IF there is anything like an omnipotent anything, it abandoned Earth many years ago.

osori
Reply to  Jerry Critter
13 years ago

Jerry,
Good question! Maybe the warranty on mankind expired a long time ago?

That would be a good thing for theologians to discuss.Was there a divine service contract offered which we didn’t take advantage of?

And did it include free oil changes?

13 years ago

The omnipotence paradox is a family of related paradoxes addressing the question of what is possible for an omnipotent being to do. The paradox states that if the being can perform such actions, then it can limit its own ability to perform actions and hence it cannot perform all actions, yet, on the other hand, if it cannot limit its own actions, then that is something it cannot do.

One version of the omnipotence paradox is the so-called paradox of the stone: “Could [an omnipotent being] create a stone so heavy that even that being could not lift it?” If so, then it seems that the being could cease to be omnipotent; if not, it seems that the being was not omnipotent to begin with. A common response is that since God is omnipotent, the phrase “could not lift” doesn’t make sense and the paradox is meaningless.

Thomas Aquinas asserts that the paradox arises from a misunderstanding of omnipotence. He maintains that inherent contradictions and logical impossibilities do not fall under the omnipotence of God. J. L Cowan sees this paradox as a reason to reject the concept of absolute omnipotence, while others, such as Descartes, argue that God is absolutely omnipotent, despite the problem.

SO THERE.

osori
Reply to  Holte Ender
13 years ago

Good stuff Holte!
I think Mike could have asked a better question, such as if God created an enormous rock, would mankind be better served if said rock rolled over a teabag convention or if it dropped on the convention?

Reply to  osori
13 years ago

Good old Wikipedia.

Reply to  Holte Ender
13 years ago

Such problems arise because of the way religion uses language. Words like “omnipotent” and “omniscient” refer to abstract absolutes which don’t correspond to anything in the real universe which language normally tries to describe.

The few absolutes that really do exist, such as the speed of light, have to be defined so that they don’t contradict each other, since the real universe those definitions describe doesn’t contradict itself.

It’s very easy to use language to describe something which is impossible because its qualities contradict each other, such as a four-sided triangle, but such descriptions can’t correspond to anything in the real universe. Religion, because it uses so many absolutes, routinely runs into the same problem.

Reply to  Professor Mike
13 years ago

I would be tempted to call a 4-sided triangle a rectangle.

13 years ago

No.

Reply to  The Lawyer
13 years ago

Or, rather the answer is, Mu! Zen koan stuff.

Bee
13 years ago

Back in my old AOL chatroom days, I used to like to argue creationists. I hammered at a few of them one night for a hour or more, trying to force them to answer the following question:

If god chose to do so, could god have used evolution as a means of creation?

They couldn’t answer no, because then god would be powerless. They couldn’t answer yes, because they were so invested in the creation crap. So, in short, their heads spun, and they would invariably devolve into a “you f’ing bitch” rant.

Ahhhh, those were the heady days of dial-up 🙂

osori
Reply to  Bee
13 years ago

Bee you were kickin’ ass and taking names even then!

Bee
Reply to  osori
13 years ago

HEHE, that’s how Mr. Bee fell in love with me 🙂 We met in an AOL chatroom.

osori
13 years ago

if God set out to make a rock bigger than He could roll, He would do so and not be able to roll it.If He then chose to be able to roll that unrollable rock, He would then roll it.

Of course, consider the source-I’m a true believer. Just one of the non-controlling non-judgmental kind. You can spot us by the LA Dodger hats we wear.

osori
Reply to  Professor Mike
13 years ago

you know they got a helluva band!

13 years ago

You mean you didn’t know God exists and has since the late 60’s? I thought everyone knew! I even touched his foot once at his last Ziggy concert. Didn’t wash my hand for weeks!

I’m shocked. You didn’t know God existed!

I will forward your apologies to Mr Bowie forthwith.

13 years ago

If God is omnipotent and omniscient, can he surprise himself?

If God is omnipotent and immortal, can he kill himself?

If God is omnipotent and all-good, can he choose to do evil?

Reply to  Professor Mike
13 years ago

Not now. He slipped and hit his head on that un-rollable rock.

13 years ago

We watch the same tv MM!! LMFAO

Reply to  Gwedolyn H. Barry
13 years ago

What TV?

13 years ago

If any omnipotent deity creates a rock so big he cannot roll it, then he is not omnipotent deity, no matter what day it is.

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