When Boxing Mattered

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As we approach the 35th anniversary of this event, I thought I might take a break from politics and porn for a sporting interlude. Ali-Frazier III. The Thrilla in Manila. The final meeting of boxing titans. Ali had christened the fight in his then famous “poetry”. He said, “It’s gonna be a killer, and a chiller and a thrilla when I get the gorilla in Manila.” As if the fight needed any more buildup, Ali decided to dub Frazier the gorilla, which did nothing to lessen the already substantial animosity from the Frazier camp. On October 30, 1975 Ali and Frazier would wage the greatest heavyweight fight of all time. The battle was so monumental that neither man would ever be the same again. They left not only their blood and guts in the ring that night, they left whatever was left of their youth as well.

Ali and Frazier fought for the first time on March 8, 1971. The fight that was billed as the fight of the century and lived up to that billing. It was quite possibly the greatest sports spectacle of the century. It featured the first meeting of undefeated heavyweight champions. Ali was coming back from a three year layoff after having his title stripped and being prohibited from boxing due to his refusal to enter the armed services. Frazier had stepped into the void created by Ali’s absence and had won the title in the heavyweight championship tournament. Ali had a couple of tune up fights and declared himself ready to reclaim his rightful place atop the heavyweight division. Ali and Frazier were friendly during Ali’s boxing exile, with Frazier even giving Ali money during a particularly rough stretch. Once the contracts were signed however, Ali began to taunt Frazier in public. He called him ugly and an Uncle Tom. He painted Frazier as the “white man’s champion”. He claimed to be the people’s champion. He turned the fight into a battle between the status quo and the voices for change, between the old and young, between black and white, between rich and poor. Frazier didn’t want any of it and he grew to hate Ali because of the taunting. The fight itself was an epic battle. Ali dominated the early rounds with his speed and his jab. Frazier, a notoriously slow starter came back in the middle rounds. The fight was fairly even as they entered the last five rounds of the fight. The years away from boxing had robbed Ali of his ability to dance around the ring for 15 rounds. As the latter rounds became more of a flat footed slugfest, the fight swung in Frazier’s direction. Frazier knocked Ali to the canvas in the 15th and final round with a thunderous trademark left hook. Ali somehow managed to pull himself up at that count of 4, but the decision was never in doubt. Frazier had defeated him and could now lay rightful claim to the true undisputed heavyweight championship of the world.

The second fight in the trilogy took place in January of 1974. Neither man was champion at that point. Frazier had been knocked senseless by George Foreman in Jamaica a year earlier and Ali had lost to a previously unknown boxer named Ken Norton. Both were at the crossroads of their careers. The fight was held at Madison Square Garden in New York, which was the same venue as their first fight, it had none of the majesty of that fight however. Ali continued to taunt Frazier and Frazier continued to build animosity toward Ali. They even tussled on Wide World of Sports while doing an interview with Howard Cosell. Ali was probably just acting, but Frazier was dead serious. The fight in the ring was neither as interesting nor as close as their first fight had been. Ali won easily, although Frazier did score with a number of punches. The fight was really the beginning of the end for Frazier. He would fight only four more times before retiring. Ali went on to fight 15 more times after the second Frazier fight.

The third fight was supposed to be easy for Ali. He had just recently regained the heavyweight title from George Foreman in Zaire and Frazier was perceived to be at the end of the line. Ali didn’t train heavily for the fight but Frazier threw everything he had into preparation. He wanted to shut Ali up once and for all. The fight took place at an indoor arena that had no air conditioning. Under the TV lights the temperature soared well above 100 degrees in the ring. The humidity was stifling. The only ventilation in the building was in the form of fans that were ineffective in battling the heat and only served to circulate the already searing air. Ali was confident as he entered the ring. He felt that he would be able to take Joe out in the early rounds. Joe had another thought in mind. The fight started in the familiar pattern of Ali – Frazier fights. Ali dominated the early rounds. He peppered Frazier with jabs and power punches that Frazier seemed unable to stop or dodge. The fight began to turn once again in the middle rounds. Frazier pinned Ali to the ropes and began to pound at Ali’s midsection and score left hooks to the head. Ali tried his rope-a-dope technique which had been so successful against Foreman, but Frazier proved too smart an opponent to simply punch himself out. He was much more economical and precise in his attack than the outclassed Foreman had been. As the fight wore on Ali knew that he was in for a battle. In one of the clinches he said, “Joe, they said you were done”, “They lied to you champ” was Joe’s only response.

The later rounds saw Ali’s punches begin to take a toll on Frazier’s face. His head became a misshapen lump of bruises. His eye were swollen and his vision became compromised. Ali seized the advantage. He produced pinpoint power shots to Frazier’s head and started to build a lead. Frazier did not stop punching however. He hurt Ali on numerous occasions as the fight wore on. Ali was later quoted as saying that those later rounds were as close to death as he as ever felt. The heat and Frazier’s relentless attack pushed him to the brink of quitting. His corner pushed him out for each round and he continued his attack on Frazier’s face. A series of shots in the 13th round sent Frazier’s mouthpiece flying into the crowd, but he never stopped coming forward, absorbing punishment, but also dishing it out. Frazier’s corner wanted to stop the fight after the 13th round but he convinced them to give him one more round. In the 14th round a nearly blinded Frazier absorbed a vicious beating from Ali and his corner did indeed call it quits before the start of the 15th. In the tape from the fight, you can see Frazier arguing with his corner about stopping the fight, but in the end his trainer, Eddie Futch, had the final say. Frazier was so upset by that decision that he refused to speak to his trainer for years (although eventually he did have a reconciliation with him). Ali, upon seeing that the fight was being stopped, got off his stool, raised his hand and then collapsed onto the canvas.

Both men had absorbed a tremendous amount of damage in the fight. And while Frazier’s face looked the worse for wear, it was Ali’s body that had suffered the most in the fight. Ali always gave up his body in order to protect his face and Frazier exacted an enormous toll during the fight. Ali was under a doctors care for several days after the fight, while Frazier was able to walk away in generally good condition. Joe Frazier would once again lose by knockout to George Foreman in his next fight after which he retired. Frazier had a short lived comeback a few years later in which he fought only once, but basically his career ended that night in Manila. Ali said after the fight that he was going to quit and most people believe that he should have. Of course he wouldn’t. He would go on to lose and then win the title one more time and he would suffer ignominious defeat at the hands of Larry Holmes in an ill advised comeback. Ali is now afflicted with Parkinson’s Syndrome, which means that although he doesn’t have Parkinson’s he has all the symptoms of a sufferer of the disease. It’s a more scientific term for what used to labeled “punch drunk”. His speech has been affected to the point that he doesn’t speak in public anymore. His limbs shake uncontrollably and his movement is limited. His continued boxing activity after that night in Manila is probably the main reason for his condition today.

The thrilla in Manila was an epic struggle between two extraordinary fighters. Both men were past their primes, both had already secured their places in boxing history, both had nothing left to prove, but on that night they showed the world something more than just a championship bout. They were no longer fighting for the heavyweight championship, they were fighting for the championship of each other. They had split the first two fights and the winner of this fight could forever claim victory over the other. Neither of them was willing to give up that fight. They both fought to the edge of death to prove something, not to the world, but to each other. Ali won that night, but paid a heavy cost by continuing his boxing career. The effects of his decision to continue to fight have made him a shadow of the person he used to be. Frazier is still relatively healthy today and while he says that he harbors no ill will toward Ali today, there has to be a lingering thought in his head that perhaps by losing, he was the ultimate victor that October night in Manila.

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13 years ago

James J. Braddock and Max Baer… another great fight!

13 years ago

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13 years ago

Never missed any of these and even had to travel quite a few miles to see them. This sport whored it’self out years ago and no longer pay attention. Changing to 12 rounds did not help matters. damn near took a beer a round for these high intensity fights.

13 years ago

Always preferred the middle weights myself. Sugar Ray, Duran, Hagler, Hearns. Mainly as they actually move about a bit….Ali was a one off. He had it all.

osori
13 years ago

Used to be we could consider Ring magazine as the definitive authority as to the “Real” champs and contenders. Haven’t read it in years though. You’re right about that alphabet soup. Like when the New York State Boxing Commission declared Frazier to be the world champ.

Eva Futch
13 years ago

Hey Mike,
I enjoyed your article but wanted to clarify your comment about Eddie and Smokin’ Joe; that Joe never spoke to Eddie again after the “thrilla in Manila”. While it strained their relationship for a few years; they got over it, or Joe rather. Joe visited us here in Las Vegas, in our home, repeatedly during the 1990’s and came to Eddie’s memorial service in 2001 at Caesar’s Palace. Eddie who had been ringside when SIX boxers met the “grim reaper” felt that stopping the fight was the only humane, right thing to do. He never regretted that decision, he wanted Frazier to live and prosper. And he does; I saw him just 2 days ago here in Las Vegas. Btw, I am Eddie’s widow.

Sincerely,
Eva Futch

Mycue
Reply to  Eva Futch
13 years ago

Mrs. Futch, thank you so much for stopping by to clear up that error in my story. I’ve always thought that the decision to stop the fight was the right one. I’m glad that Joe eventually saw his way through to get past that decision. Anyone who has seen the fight can see that Mr. Futch made the difficult decision with only his fighters health in mind. Having a boxer with a champions heart, as Joe has, must make that decision even harder, but that last round could have been deadly.

Thank you one again for stopping by and hopefully you’ll be watching out so that if I make a mistake again, you will be there to correct me.

13 years ago

I also enjoyed this post very much. It captured my interest from start to finish.

In the deep background of the Thrilla was the festering alphabet soup of sanctioning bodies with “world” titles. I think at the time it was only the WBA and WBC, but others have joined in over the years, some of them (such as the WAA) short-lived, and they’ve double the number of weight divisions and bestowed “world” championships on their favored fighters. Is there any division today with an undisputed world champ?

It’s that alphabet soup, with all its corruption, that has made a joke of professional boxing.

13 years ago

The Ali/Frazier years were the pinnacle of boxing in my lifetime, especially in the heavyweight division. Lesser weights take all the (forced) publicity these days.

Heavyweights have lost all their charisma and so has boxing because of the lack of big men that capture the imagination of the sporting public.

In the movie “Sea Biscuit” the commentary said: “During the Depression, three sports dominated American media, horse racing, baseball and boxing.

Perhaps the greatest sporting film ever made was “Raging Bull”.

Mycue
13 years ago

Oso,
I’ll see what I can do. I used to love the fight game. It’s hard to match the Ali-Frazier trilogy, but if there ever was a boxer whose life lends itself to some pugilistic prose it is the aforementioned Duran. What a character. You know if someone had made him up, I’m not sure I would believe it.

osori
13 years ago

MyCue,
We need one on Duran from you man, maybe even Leonard-Duran-Hearns.Got some scoop on the rematch from a Cubano whose uncle trained fighters in Miami.

13 years ago

I’m not a fight fan. But reading your post has educated me and reminded me of all the press… years ago! Really great edu.

13 years ago

I was an ardent Boxing fan. Growing up every Friday night was Boxing. I got to watch some great fights. The trilogy you mentioned will last my life in vivid memory. These men were Gladiators.
One of the things some don’t know about the fight was that both men were also under heavy death threats. Ali more than Frazier.
One can imagine the security in Manila at the time was not so good. It was a Dictatorial regime.
After the fight Ali Spoke of Joe without harshness. Joe wanted nothing more to do with Ali and harbors bad feelings even today.
There was a segment on a sports show with 4 of the Champions of that time. Joe,Ali,Ken Norton,and George Foreman. Jos feelings came through even then. Ali was sick and shaking, Joe said to him something like, “You don’t look like no Champ to me”. Joe for years after would still taunt Ali.
Thanks for bringing back all those memories. You put a smile on my face. Ask the others, not an easy thing to do.;)

osori
13 years ago

Brings back memories man!

I saw Ali-Frazier 3 closed ckt at an auditorium in San Gabriel, back in the day before pay per view.Saw Ali-Foreman closed ckt at the Olympic Auditorium in LA,Frazier-Foreman 2 closed ckt also. That was the only time I saw a Frazier fight when the crowd was behind him. It was cool seeing him come out smoking, shaved head.But the result was inevitable.

Ali-Frazier 1 I listened to radio station give updates after each round, I don’t think it was broadcast anywhere even on the radio.

I idolized Ali,used to box at a YMCA program where I’d regularly take a beating, even with 16 ounce gloves and headgear cause I insisted on keeping my gloves at my side and dancing around pretending I was Ali and pissing off everybody. That only works if one has talent but looks stupid when the guy dancing around the ring weighs 140 lbs.

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