Supreme Court Ruling Exposes Unwilling To Religious Claptrap
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The Jesus worshipping members of the Supreme Court, all conservatives of course, are forcing religion down the throats of non-believers, claiming that Christianity is part of the “fabric” of the nation, as opposed to the bizarre, man made myth that it really is. This ruling could well have consequences for the entire nation, as fanatic acolytes of the mythical deity gear up to spread their religious poison through the facade of “government.”
From Newser:
It’s OK for town council meetings to open with prayers, even if those prayers heavily reference Christianity, the Supreme Court declared today, in a 5-4 ruling split along familiar ideological lines. The court said that the content of the prayers is irrelevant, as long as officials make a good-faith effort at inclusion. “The inclusion of a brief, ceremonial prayer as part of a larger exercise in civic recognition suggests that its purpose and effect are to acknowledge religious leaders and the institutions they represent, rather than to exclude or coerce nonbelievers,” Anthony Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion.
The ruling was a victory for the town of Greece, NY, which is located just outside of Rochester. A federal appeals court had ruled that Greece violated the Constitution by opening its town council meetings with explicitly Christian prayers. The high court rejected that logic, instead remaining consistent with a 1983 ruling holding that prayer is part of the nation’s fabric, not a violation of the First Amendment. But in her dissent, Elena Kagan argued that this case was different, because “Greece’s town meetings involve participation by ordinary citizens, and the invocations given—directly to those citizens—were predominantly sectarian in content.”
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Linda can spell therefore it’s a joke.
“part of the fabric” is the “Argument From Tradition,” which of course, like every religious argument, is a well worn and sleazy fallacy. Simple to observe as false when you think that slavery, genocide and every kind of moral offense is also part of the ‘fabric.’ Besides, it’s factually untrue as you point out.
That was the whole unique and scary thing about our national experiment. For nearly every country in the world and certainly all Christian countries, democracy was heresy as God established, by installing King David that only he had the right to appoint rulers and the legitimacy of government was traceable to God, not the will of the people.
Too bad there aren’t more history buffs and a lot fewer brainwashed Godbothers. Jefferson called religion Tyranny. Madison was even less polite and if Jefferson and the boys who wrote the Constitution aren’t part of the “fabric” I don’t know who is.
What we have seen with this ruling is another step toward the USA becoming a totalitarian theocracy. It will be forced upon the country one step at a time.
That idea is frightening indeed James, and I think the election of George Bush was the beginning of this trend.
I think you’re right if you mean George “Atheists can’t be patriots or citizens” Bush.
Yep, we’re all going to be Talibangelicals and we will love it Mike. Especially the women, I cannot wait.
Congratulations, James you took the words out of my mouth! I couldn’t agree with you more!
Prayers belong in churches, synagogues, mosques, and other houses of worship, not in public town meetings.
America founded as a Christian nation? Nothing could be further from the truth. The American Revolution was fought for independence from a Christian nation, the British Empire.
In the American Revolutionary War, only one-third of the colonists supported the Patriot side for independence. One third of the colonists did all they could do to remain neutral. And the other one third were Loyalists.
It often happened where you would be serving in the Continental Army under George Washington, while your own brother, father or son, would be serving in either a colonial Loyalist Regiment, or even be serving in the British Army itself.
I just wonder would how the American public would react if a major filmmaker, like Oliver Stone or Steven Spielberg, dared to have the courage to make a mainstream movie about the American Revolution from the Loyalist point of view? I would just love to see to such a movie because of how interesting it would be for me as a history buff, but I doubt that will ever happen.
A majority of the Loyalists were Bible believing Christians. They fought on the pro-British Loyalist side, because they believed King George to God’s divinely appointed ruler of the American colonies, that declaring independence for the colonies was contrary to the will of God, and “the spirit of anti-Christ”.
This is why the rallying cry of the Loyalists was “God save the King!”
So as for the religious, historical ignoramuses who falsely believe that America was founded as a Christian nation, I would greatly appreciate it if they or somebody else, would please tell me who’s side was God on in the American Revolutionary Way!?
Our nation’s Founding Fathers, under the 1st Amendment of the Constitution, established our country to be a secular republic, so that every American can either be free to choose whatever religion he, or she, wants to practice, or even have the right to choose to have no religion and choose not to worship any gods whatsoever. Yes, that even includes the right to be an atheist or an agnostic.
Atheists are often wrongfully accused of being communists. But ironically, the oppression against freedom of religion that happened in the former Soviet Union, is an excellent example as to why America must always have a wall of separation and church and state!
As a patriotic American, I want to live in the secular republic our Founding Fathers intended for our nation to be, not in any kind of a theocracy. I am also am member of the FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION.
Why would He visit His wrath on us and forget about others who are far more evil and despicable than the citizens of our nation Linda?
I’ll submit a post on this from a Christian perspective MadMike. Unless you’d rather I keep it here.
No please submit Joe!
Because duh Joe, it’s ok when this god or that god does it.
Praise the Lord, for He is our God and soon he will visit his wrath upon this satanic land. His wonders are expressed through our wonderful High Court. Atheists may you all rot in hell.
A typical response from an ignorant christian. As usual, filled with hate and threats.
Atheism is on the rise. The best you can hope for is that we do not treat you theists as you have treated us.
Ah, come on, Linda is joking, right?
I don’t think so Glenn. She looks like a solid banger to me.
You’re kidding right? Do you actually believe that crap? Of course you do.
You’re one of that god’s gentle people aren’t you? Well here’s a little how do do for you. I plan on attending a church this coming weekend and I am going to sit there and read from the nastiest piece of erotic writing I can find this week, while people are in silent prayer. Let’s see how long it takes one of you to kick my ass out of a seat and yes I will report back next Sunday afternoon or Monday. Hey, if you guys can read holy prayers during meetings at city hall, I should be allowed to read from my holy book in a church.
Linda, if God is so great why is punishing the poor so much. What did the do wrong.
Bill, Bill, Bill. they were not fortunate to have come from the lucky sperm club, they’re poors.
If I go back to being agnostic can I miss the rotting and hell thing? Just asking….